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| Started by | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| First post | 2018-05-20 23:08 -0700 |
| Last post | 2018-05-21 15:02 -0700 |
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There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-20 23:08 -0700
Re: There is no future IAM <abookoflife@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-20 23:46 -0700
Re: There is no future SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> - 2018-05-21 20:30 +1000
Re: There is no future Mark Earnest <gmearnest@att.net> - 2018-05-21 04:55 -0700
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-21 09:18 -0700
Re: There is no future Mark Earnest <gmearnest@att.net> - 2018-05-21 09:22 -0700
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-21 11:40 -0700
Re: There is no future Mark Earnest <gmearnest@att.net> - 2018-05-21 12:04 -0700
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-22 08:36 -0700
Re: There is no future Mark Earnest <gmearnest@att.net> - 2018-05-22 09:15 -0700
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-22 13:49 -0700
Re: There is no future IAM <abookoflife@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-22 15:46 -0700
Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-22 22:31 -0400
Re: There is no future Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 03:12 +0000
Re: There is no future IAM <abookoflife@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-22 20:55 -0700
The answer isn't meaningful to most people. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-05-22 23:34 -0700
Re: The answer isn't meaningful to most people. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-23 10:12 -0400
Re: The answer isn't meaningful to most people. djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-05-23 16:54 +0000
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-22 23:12 -0700
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-23 10:55 -0700
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-23 10:59 -0700
Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-23 17:56 -0400
Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-23 17:55 -0400
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-23 14:59 -0700
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-22 23:19 -0700
Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-23 10:10 -0400
Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-22 13:24 -0400
Re: There is no future Mark Earnest <gmearnest@att.net> - 2018-05-22 10:45 -0700
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 08:38 -0700
Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-24 11:56 -0400
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 10:45 -0700
Re: There is no future Mark Earnest <gmearnest@att.net> - 2018-05-24 11:28 -0700
Re: There is no future Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2018-05-25 15:18 +1000
Re: There is no future Mark Earnest <gmearnest@att.net> - 2018-05-25 03:36 -0700
Re: There is no future IAM <abookoflife@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-24 13:15 -0700
Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-24 20:30 -0400
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 22:17 -0700
Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-25 10:46 -0400
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-25 11:48 -0700
Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-25 17:47 -0400
Re: There is no future IAM <abookoflife@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-25 16:30 -0700
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-28 23:43 -0700
Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-29 07:03 -0400
Re: There is no future HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-05-30 08:50 +1000
Re: There is no future HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-06-01 08:45 +1000
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-28 23:48 -0700
Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-29 07:08 -0400
Re: There is no future Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-05-30 03:46 -0600
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-30 10:10 -0700
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-03 13:22 -0700
Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-21 16:04 -0400
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-21 13:35 -0700
Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-21 16:53 -0400
Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-21 14:56 -0700
Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-21 20:21 -0400
Re: There is no future IAM <abookoflife@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-21 19:04 -0700
Re: There is no future Double-A <doublea333@gmail.com> - 2018-05-21 15:02 -0700
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-20 23:08 -0700 |
| Subject | There is no future |
| Message-ID | <5B026269.76CC@ix.netcom.com> |
There is no future... or proof that a future exist.
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| From | IAM <abookoflife@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-20 23:46 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1e684951-fb84-4190-9b8c-ac189d2e6073@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #298769 |
On Sunday, May 20, 2018 at 11:08:50 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: > There is no future... > or proof that a future exist. Where is there? Because the future is there too:)
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| From | SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-21 20:30 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <199wbj1tz7xzv.hk617dn4fpwy.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #298769 |
On Sun, 20 May 2018 23:08:41 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > There is no future... > or proof that a future exist. Wait a minute.
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| From | Mark Earnest <gmearnest@att.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-21 04:55 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6860e094-50e6-4b1a-90a7-1e4f20c7ab5e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #298769 |
On Monday, May 21, 2018 at 1:08:50 AM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: > There is no future... > or proof that a future exist. There is always the future. Time never ends. Next time don't make the mistake of leaving God out of the equation.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-21 09:18 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5B02F16D.7CA2@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #298769 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > There is no future... > or proof that a future exist. I know you people haven't given it....much thought. If you're not certain about the future, how do you know there is one?
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| From | Mark Earnest <gmearnest@att.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-21 09:22 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e49b7b1a-bc46-43c6-a357-9f6e2f3374e5@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #298775 |
On Monday, May 21, 2018 at 11:19:02 AM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > There is no future... > > or proof that a future exist. > > > > I know you people haven't given it....much thought. > > > If you're not certain about the future, how do you know there is one? Have you ever known tomorrow not to come?
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-21 11:40 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5B03129B.3A04@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #298776 |
Mark Earnest wrote: > > On Monday, May 21, 2018 at 11:19:02 AM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > There is no future... > > > or proof that a future exist. > > > > > > > > I know you people haven't given it....much thought. > > > > > > If you're not certain about the future, how do you know there is one? > > Have you ever known tomorrow not to come? The rotation of the earth has nothing to do with...future.
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| From | Mark Earnest <gmearnest@att.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-21 12:04 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <856a4c94-8427-4571-b1d1-004bccde00bd@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #298779 |
On Monday, May 21, 2018 at 1:40:31 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: > Mark Earnest wrote: > > > > On Monday, May 21, 2018 at 11:19:02 AM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > There is no future... > > > > or proof that a future exist. > > > > > > > > > > > > I know you people haven't given it....much thought. > > > > > > > > > If you're not certain about the future, how do you know there is one? > > > > Have you ever known tomorrow not to come? > > The rotation of the earth has nothing to do with...future. Rest easy. The future will get here. It always does.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-22 08:36 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5B0438EE.675B@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #298782 |
Mark Earnest wrote: > > On Monday, May 21, 2018 at 1:40:31 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: > > Mark Earnest wrote: > > > > > > On Monday, May 21, 2018 at 11:19:02 AM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > > There is no future... > > > > > or proof that a future exist. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know you people haven't given it....much thought. > > > > > > > > > > > > If you're not certain about the future, how do you know there is one? > > > > > > Have you ever known tomorrow not to come? > > > > The rotation of the earth has nothing to do with...future. > > Rest easy. The future will get here. It always does. Let me know when it gets here, I'm always here now in the present.
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| From | Mark Earnest <gmearnest@att.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-22 09:15 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5b691b95-2484-4b32-aa11-bee1f5cfdc24@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #298818 |
On Tuesday, May 22, 2018 at 10:37:37 AM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: > Mark Earnest wrote: > > > > On Monday, May 21, 2018 at 1:40:31 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: > > > Mark Earnest wrote: > > > > > > > > On Monday, May 21, 2018 at 11:19:02 AM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no future... > > > > > > or proof that a future exist. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know you people haven't given it....much thought. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you're not certain about the future, how do you know there is one? > > > > > > > > Have you ever known tomorrow not to come? > > > > > > The rotation of the earth has nothing to do with...future. > > > > Rest easy. The future will get here. It always does. > > Let me know when it gets here, I'm always here now in the present. It will get here on pay day.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-22 13:49 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5B048277.22D6@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #298819 |
Mark Earnest wrote: > > On Tuesday, May 22, 2018 at 10:37:37 AM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: > > Mark Earnest wrote: > > > > > > On Monday, May 21, 2018 at 1:40:31 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > Mark Earnest wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, May 21, 2018 at 11:19:02 AM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no future... > > > > > > > or proof that a future exist. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know you people haven't given it....much thought. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you're not certain about the future, how do you know there is one? > > > > > > > > > > Have you ever known tomorrow not to come? > > > > > > > > The rotation of the earth has nothing to do with...future. > > > > > > Rest easy. The future will get here. It always does. > > > > Let me know when it gets here, I'm always here now in the present. > > It will get here on pay day. benj 'the science guy' is probably stuck somewhere in some probable future...who knows where...the possibilities are endless... of course, if there is no future he's probably still here somewhere. (you know that scene in the movie "Get Out" where the guy is floating in space? that's benj...) everytime benj sits down in his chair he falls down through outer space... benji, what is longer....the future or the past?
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| From | IAM <abookoflife@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-22 15:46 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <45fa91f9-8bd3-43c6-bb66-edb5a01cb6dc@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #298833 |
On Tuesday, May 22, 2018 at 1:49:52 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: > Mark Earnest wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, May 22, 2018 at 10:37:37 AM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: > > > Mark Earnest wrote: > > > > > > > > On Monday, May 21, 2018 at 1:40:31 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > Mark Earnest wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, May 21, 2018 at 11:19:02 AM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no future... > > > > > > > > or proof that a future exist. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know you people haven't given it....much thought. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you're not certain about the future, how do you know there is one? > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you ever known tomorrow not to come? > > > > > > > > > > The rotation of the earth has nothing to do with...future. > > > > > > > > Rest easy. The future will get here. It always does. > > > > > > Let me know when it gets here, I'm always here now in the present. > > > > It will get here on pay day. > > > > benj 'the science guy' is probably stuck somewhere in some probable future...who knows where...the possibilities are endless... > > of course, if there is no future he's probably still here somewhere. > > > (you know that scene in the movie "Get Out" where the guy is floating in space? that's benj...) > > > everytime benj sits down in his chair he falls down through outer space... > > > > benji, what is longer....the future or the past? star dummy. You SAID there is no FUTURE. so there cannot be a " Probable FUTURE" or any future, dumbass. Stop playing both sides of the issue. On the stock market game, they have a division called "Futures" of grains and cattle, livestock gambling. so these bankers believe in futures. Fucking non consciousness. .
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-22 22:31 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <7o4NC.219025$br4.64945@fx34.iad> |
| In reply to | #298833 |
On 5/22/2018 4:49 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > Mark Earnest wrote: >> >> On Tuesday, May 22, 2018 at 10:37:37 AM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: >>> Mark Earnest wrote: >>>> >>>> On Monday, May 21, 2018 at 1:40:31 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>> Mark Earnest wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Monday, May 21, 2018 at 11:19:02 AM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There is no future... >>>>>>>> or proof that a future exist. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I know you people haven't given it....much thought. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you're not certain about the future, how do you know there is one? >>>>>> >>>>>> Have you ever known tomorrow not to come? >>>>> >>>>> The rotation of the earth has nothing to do with...future. >>>> >>>> Rest easy. The future will get here. It always does. >>> >>> Let me know when it gets here, I'm always here now in the present. >> >> It will get here on pay day. > > > > benj 'the science guy' is probably stuck somewhere in some probable future...who knows where...the possibilities are endless... > > of course, if there is no future he's probably still here somewhere. > > > (you know that scene in the movie "Get Out" where the guy is floating in space? that's benj...) > > > everytime benj sits down in his chair he falls down through outer space... > > > > benji, what is longer....the future or the past? > I'm the science guy so I naturally know that the units of time are not distance. The questions is science nonsense.
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| From | Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-23 03:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA8EACD8A4C46Ataustincagmailcom@69.16.179.43> |
| In reply to | #298846 |
benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote in
news:7o4NC.219025$br4.64945@fx34.iad:
> On 5/22/2018 4:49 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> Mark Earnest wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, May 22, 2018 at 10:37:37 AM UTC-5, The Starmaker
>>> wrote:
>>>> Mark Earnest wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, May 21, 2018 at 1:40:31 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Mark Earnest wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Monday, May 21, 2018 at 11:19:02 AM UTC-5, The
>>>>>>> Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There is no future...
>>>>>>>>> or proof that a future exist.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I know you people haven't given it....much thought.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you're not certain about the future, how do you know
>>>>>>>> there is one?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have you ever known tomorrow not to come?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The rotation of the earth has nothing to do with...future.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rest easy. The future will get here. It always does.
>>>>
>>>> Let me know when it gets here, I'm always here now in the
>>>> present.
>>>
>>> It will get here on pay day.
>>
>>
>>
>> benj 'the science guy' is probably stuck somewhere in some
>> probable future...who knows where...the possibilities are
>> endless...
>>
>> of course, if there is no future he's probably still here
>> somewhere.
>>
>>
>> (you know that scene in the movie "Get Out" where the guy is
>> floating in space? that's benj...)
>>
>>
>> everytime benj sits down in his chair he falls down through
>> outer space...
>>
>>
>>
>> benji, what is longer....the future or the past?
>>
> I'm the science guy so I naturally know that the units of time
> are not distance. The questions is science nonsense.
>
Starmaker is, so far as anyone can tell, a mentally ill retard.
And you're arguing with him.
--
Terry Austin
"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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| From | IAM <abookoflife@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-22 20:55 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <3a9643b1-d8c1-4460-8b2b-769a8422f981@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #298847 |
On Tuesday, May 22, 2018 at 8:12:20 PM UTC-7, Ninapenda Jibini wrote: > benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote in > news:7o4NC.219025$br4.64945@fx34.iad: > > > On 5/22/2018 4:49 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >> Mark Earnest wrote: > >>> > >>> On Tuesday, May 22, 2018 at 10:37:37 AM UTC-5, The Starmaker > >>> wrote: > >>>> Mark Earnest wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> On Monday, May 21, 2018 at 1:40:31 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> Mark Earnest wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Monday, May 21, 2018 at 11:19:02 AM UTC-5, The > >>>>>>> Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> There is no future... > >>>>>>>>> or proof that a future exist. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I know you people haven't given it....much thought. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> If you're not certain about the future, how do you know > >>>>>>>> there is one? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Have you ever known tomorrow not to come? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The rotation of the earth has nothing to do with...future. > >>>>> > >>>>> Rest easy. The future will get here. It always does. > >>>> > >>>> Let me know when it gets here, I'm always here now in the > >>>> present. > >>> > >>> It will get here on pay day. > >> > >> > >> > >> benj 'the science guy' is probably stuck somewhere in some > >> probable future...who knows where...the possibilities are > >> endless... > >> > >> of course, if there is no future he's probably still here > >> somewhere. > >> > >> > >> (you know that scene in the movie "Get Out" where the guy is > >> floating in space? that's benj...) > >> > >> > >> everytime benj sits down in his chair he falls down through > >> outer space... > >> > >> > >> > >> benji, what is longer....the future or the past? > >> > > I'm the science guy so I naturally know that the units of time > > are not distance. The questions is science nonsense. > > > Starmaker is, so far as anyone can tell, a mentally ill retard. > > And you're arguing with him. benji got time space wrong. Time is measured by Space but space is relative to time. Special Relativity by Christian Johannes Kepler, my team. Albert Einstein was wrong, a fucking incest fucker and white genocider, racist butt shit > > -- > Terry Austin > > "Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole." > -- David Bilek > > Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me @. |
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| Date | 2018-05-22 23:34 -0700 |
| Subject | The answer isn't meaningful to most people. |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@May.22--11.34pm.Seattle.2018> |
| In reply to | #298847 |
> > what is longer....the future or the past?
The answer isn't meaningful to most people
because, as the cosmos thins ( due to increasing entropy ),
"the clock" speeds up ( time passes faster ).
"The Cosmic Horizon" is like "The Event Horizon" of an ideal black hole;
the clock's TickRate, some 13,800,000,000 years ago,
at the cosmic horizon, was (virtually) zero
( the real, _precise_ TickRate is unknowable ).
13.8 billion years ago, everything in the (subjectively) Known Universe
was in the same location; i.e. zero entropy and infinite density/exergy.
[ eXergy is a type of energy that can do physical work, force * distance ]
Eventually, this eXergy will be consumed away, replaced with entropy;
leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has all of the energy
but none of the eXergy.
Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was.
All of history, every lesson ever, every advance, tells us:
Randomness is ignorance, nothing more.
General Relativity's four dimensional TimeScape is static, eternal,
perfectly causal... it is, at once, everything _and_ nothing.
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-23 10:12 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: The answer isn't meaningful to most people. |
| Message-ID | <TFeNC.94477$pK.82615@fx13.iad> |
| In reply to | #298851 |
On 5/23/2018 2:34 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: >>> what is longer....the future or the past? > > The answer isn't meaningful to most people > because, as the cosmos thins ( due to increasing entropy ), > "the clock" speeds up ( time passes faster ). > > "The Cosmic Horizon" is like "The Event Horizon" of an ideal black hole; > the clock's TickRate, some 13,800,000,000 years ago, > at the cosmic horizon, was (virtually) zero > ( the real, _precise_ TickRate is unknowable ). > > 13.8 billion years ago, everything in the (subjectively) Known Universe > was in the same location; i.e. zero entropy and infinite density/exergy. > [ eXergy is a type of energy that can do physical work, force * distance ] > > Eventually, this eXergy will be consumed away, replaced with entropy; > leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has all of the energy > but none of the eXergy. > > Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was. > > All of history, every lesson ever, every advance, tells us: > Randomness is ignorance, nothing more. > > General Relativity's four dimensional TimeScape is static, eternal, > perfectly causal... it is, at once, everything _and_ nothing. > "Nothing at all is Everything"!!!! There you go Rolf. You are really starting to "get" modern physics now. Odd can explain the details to you of how nothing is everything.
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| From | djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) |
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| Date | 2018-05-23 16:54 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: The answer isn't meaningful to most people. |
| Message-ID | <p96xnM.7yB@kithrup.com> |
| In reply to | #298865 |
In article <TFeNC.94477$pK.82615@fx13.iad>, benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote: >On 5/23/2018 2:34 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: >>>> what is longer....the future or the past? >> >> The answer isn't meaningful to most people >> because, as the cosmos thins ( due to increasing entropy ), >> "the clock" speeds up ( time passes faster ). >> >> "The Cosmic Horizon" is like "The Event Horizon" of an ideal black hole; >> the clock's TickRate, some 13,800,000,000 years ago, >> at the cosmic horizon, was (virtually) zero >> ( the real, _precise_ TickRate is unknowable ). >> >> 13.8 billion years ago, everything in the (subjectively) Known Universe >> was in the same location; i.e. zero entropy and infinite density/exergy. >> [ eXergy is a type of energy that can do physical work, force * distance ] >> >> Eventually, this eXergy will be consumed away, replaced with entropy; >> leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has all of the energy >> but none of the eXergy. >> >> Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was. >> >> All of history, every lesson ever, every advance, tells us: >> Randomness is ignorance, nothing more. >> >> General Relativity's four dimensional TimeScape is static, eternal, >> perfectly causal... it is, at once, everything _and_ nothing. >> >"Nothing at all is Everything"!!!! > >There you go Rolf. You are really starting to "get" modern physics now. >Odd can explain the details to you of how nothing is everything. "We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct." --Niels Bohr to Wolfgang Pauli -- Dorothy J. Heydt Vallejo, California djheydt at gmail dot com
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-22 23:12 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5B05065A.7411@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #298846 |
benj wrote: > > On 5/22/2018 4:49 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > Mark Earnest wrote: > >> > >> On Tuesday, May 22, 2018 at 10:37:37 AM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: > >>> Mark Earnest wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On Monday, May 21, 2018 at 1:40:31 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>> Mark Earnest wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Monday, May 21, 2018 at 11:19:02 AM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> There is no future... > >>>>>>>> or proof that a future exist. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I know you people haven't given it....much thought. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> If you're not certain about the future, how do you know there is one? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Have you ever known tomorrow not to come? > >>>>> > >>>>> The rotation of the earth has nothing to do with...future. > >>>> > >>>> Rest easy. The future will get here. It always does. > >>> > >>> Let me know when it gets here, I'm always here now in the present. > >> > >> It will get here on pay day. > > > > > > > > benj 'the science guy' is probably stuck somewhere in some probable future...who knows where...the possibilities are endless... > > > > of course, if there is no future he's probably still here somewhere. > > > > > > (you know that scene in the movie "Get Out" where the guy is floating in space? that's benj...) > > > > > > everytime benj sits down in his chair he falls down through outer space... > > > > > > > > benji, what is longer....the future or the past? > > > I'm the science guy so I naturally know that the units of time are not > distance. The questions is science nonsense. 'if we thought the past was a long time, the future seems longer' --richard feynman
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-23 10:55 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5B05AB0D.574E@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #298849 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > benj wrote: > > > > On 5/22/2018 4:49 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > > Mark Earnest wrote: > > >> > > >> On Tuesday, May 22, 2018 at 10:37:37 AM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: > > >>> Mark Earnest wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> On Monday, May 21, 2018 at 1:40:31 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: > > >>>>> Mark Earnest wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On Monday, May 21, 2018 at 11:19:02 AM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: > > >>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> There is no future... > > >>>>>>>> or proof that a future exist. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> I know you people haven't given it....much thought. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> If you're not certain about the future, how do you know there is one? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Have you ever known tomorrow not to come? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> The rotation of the earth has nothing to do with...future. > > >>>> > > >>>> Rest easy. The future will get here. It always does. > > >>> > > >>> Let me know when it gets here, I'm always here now in the present. > > >> > > >> It will get here on pay day. > > > > > > > > > > > > benj 'the science guy' is probably stuck somewhere in some probable future...who knows where...the possibilities are endless... > > > > > > of course, if there is no future he's probably still here somewhere. > > > > > > > > > (you know that scene in the movie "Get Out" where the guy is floating in space? that's benj...) > > > > > > > > > everytime benj sits down in his chair he falls down through outer space... > > > > > > > > > > > > benji, what is longer....the future or the past? > > > > > I'm the science guy so I naturally know that the units of time are not > > distance. The questions is science nonsense. > > 'if we thought the past was a long time, the future seems longer' --richard feynman I wonder where benji got this idea i'm using a ruler to measure...time? it's been a lonnnng time since i used a ruler for anything.. What time does your ruler say?? It's half past a cows ass... it's 12 inch o'clock.
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