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| Started by | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| First post | 2016-03-23 19:26 -0800 |
| Last post | 2016-03-24 13:04 -0700 |
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Atheist are Blind.. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-23 19:26 -0800
Re: Atheist are Blind.. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-23 21:56 -0800
Re: Atheist are Blind.. Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-03-24 09:29 +0000
Re: Atheist are Blind.. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-03-24 05:01 -0700
Re: Atheist are Blind.. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-24 11:25 -0800
Re: Atheist are Blind.. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-25 17:47 -0800
Re: Atheist are Blind.. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-28 18:56 -0400
Re: Atheist are Blind.. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-28 23:07 -0800
Re: Atheist are Blind.. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-29 04:50 -0400
Re: Atheist are Blind.. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2016-03-29 04:13 -0700
Re: Atheist are Blind.. Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net> - 2016-03-29 05:55 -0700
Re: Atheist are Blind.. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-30 05:06 -0400
Re: Atheist are Blind.. Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-03-30 11:06 +0100
Re: Atheist are Blind.. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2016-03-30 03:53 -0700
Re: Atheist are Blind.. Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-03-30 12:46 +0100
Re: Atheist are Blind.. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2016-03-30 05:00 -0700
Re: Atheist are Blind.. Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-03-30 13:29 +0100
Re: Atheist are Blind.. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2016-03-30 06:25 -0700
Re: Atheist are Blind.. Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-03-30 15:27 +0100
Re: Atheist are Blind.. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-31 03:51 -0400
Re: Atheist are Blind.. Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-03-31 12:11 +0100
Re: Atheist are Blind.. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-31 12:18 +0100
Re: Atheist are Blind.. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-31 17:19 -0400
Re: Atheist are Blind.. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2016-03-31 14:36 -0700
Re: Atheist are Blind.. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-04-01 04:15 -0400
Re: Atheist are Blind.. Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-04-01 08:50 +0100
Re: Atheist are Blind.. Mustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-03-30 03:18 -0700
Re: Atheist are Blind.. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2016-03-30 03:50 -0700
Re: Atheist are Blind.. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-31 03:54 -0400
Re: Atheist are Blind.. Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net> - 2016-03-29 06:00 -0700
Re: Atheist are Blind.. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-29 22:56 -0800
Re: Atheist are Blind.. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-30 05:08 -0400
Re: Atheist are Blind.. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2016-03-30 04:03 -0700
Re: Atheist are Blind.. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-31 03:56 -0400
Re: Atheist are Blind.. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2016-03-31 04:04 -0700
Re: Atheist are Blind.. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-31 17:22 -0400
Re: Atheist are Blind.. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-31 23:36 -0800
Re: Atheist are Blind.. Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net> - 2016-03-30 04:16 -0700
Re: Atheist are Blind.. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-24 11:26 -0800
Re: Atheist are Blind.. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-24 11:46 -0800
Re: Atheist are Blind.. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-25 09:10 -0800
Re: Atheist are Blind.. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-25 13:35 -0400
Re: Atheist are Blind.. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-25 12:45 -0800
Re: Atheist are Blind.. Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net> - 2016-03-25 13:23 -0700
Re: Atheist are Blind.. "Notroll2016" <notroll2015@charter.net> - 2016-03-25 16:51 -0500
Re: Atheist are Blind.. Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net> - 2016-03-25 16:45 -0700
Re: Atheist are Blind.. Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net> - 2016-03-25 13:21 -0700
Re: Atheist are Blind.. Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net> - 2016-03-24 13:04 -0700
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-23 19:26 -0800 |
| Subject | Atheist are Blind.. |
| Message-ID | <56F35E75.3596@ix.netcom.com> |
to be continued..
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-23 21:56 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <56F38193.620C@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #283172 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > to be continued.. Atheist are Blind... wat i mean is.. Atheist have this mantra... "I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!" "I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!" "I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!" But the question is...from Who???? to be continued...
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| From | Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> |
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| Date | 2016-03-24 09:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mec7fbh7drda7j82gbgrfsrbdltdbb8s4p@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #283180 |
On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:56:35 -0800, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >The Starmaker wrote: >> >> to be continued.. > > > >Atheist are Blind... > >wat i mean is.. > >Atheist have this mantra... > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!" >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!" >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!" > >But the question is...from Who???? The people who make the claims of course, Who else? Personally I have stopped asking knowing that I will not get an answer. If they do not offer up evidence with their claims (or assertions) I just simply dismiss them silently without even bothering to tell them Les Hellawell Grreting from YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County Martin Luther wrote:: "Faith must trample underfoot all sense, reason and understanding Which means that if Luther practised what he preached nothing he ever said made any sense
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| From | Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-24 05:01 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <hlwdjsd2-7AB21B.05013524032016@news.giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #283181 |
In article <mec7fbh7drda7j82gbgrfsrbdltdbb8s4p@4ax.com>, Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> wrote: > On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:56:35 -0800, The Starmaker > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > >The Starmaker wrote: > >> > >> to be continued.. > > > > > > > >Atheist are Blind... > > > >wat i mean is.. > > > >Atheist have this mantra... > > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!" > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!" > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!" > > > >But the question is...from Who???? > > The people who make the claims of course, > Who else? > > Personally I have stopped asking knowing that I > will not get an answer. If they do not offer up evidence > with their claims (or assertions) I just simply dismiss > them silently without even bothering to tell them I like to give them the opportunity to be honest. I don't expect them to, but I always like to give them the opportunity. -- JD "If ANYONE will not welcome you or listen to your words, LEAVE that home or town and shake the dust off your feet." Matthew 10:14
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-24 11:25 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <56F43F43.16F8@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #283184 |
Jeanne Douglas wrote: > > In article <mec7fbh7drda7j82gbgrfsrbdltdbb8s4p@4ax.com>, > Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> wrote: > > > On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:56:35 -0800, The Starmaker > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > > > >The Starmaker wrote: > > >> > > >> to be continued.. > > > > > > > > > > > >Atheist are Blind... > > > > > >wat i mean is.. > > > > > >Atheist have this mantra... > > > > > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!" > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!" > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!" > > > > > >But the question is...from Who???? > > > > The people who make the claims of course, > > Who else? > > > > Personally I have stopped asking knowing that I > > will not get an answer. If they do not offer up evidence > > with their claims (or assertions) I just simply dismiss > > them silently without even bothering to tell them > > I like to give them the opportunity to be honest. I don't expect them > to, but I always like to give them the opportunity. What makes you think they are NOT honest???
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-25 17:47 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <56F5EA14.525B@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #283190 |
hypatiab7 wrote: > > On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 2:25:38 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote: > > Jeanne Douglas wrote: > > > > > > In article <mec7fbh7drda7j82gbgrfsrbdltdbb8s4p@4ax.com>, > > > Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:56:35 -0800, The Starmaker > > > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > >The Starmaker wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> to be continued.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Atheist are Blind... > > > > > > > > > >wat i mean is.. > > > > > > > > > >Atheist have this mantra... > > > > > > > > > > > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!" > > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!" > > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!" > > > > > > > > > >But the question is...from Who???? > > > > > > > > The people who make the claims of course, > > > > Who else? > > > > > > > > Personally I have stopped asking knowing that I > > > > will not get an answer. If they do not offer up evidence > > > > with their claims (or assertions) I just simply dismiss > > > > them silently without even bothering to tell them > > > > > > I like to give them the opportunity to be honest. I don't expect them > > > to, but I always like to give them the opportunity. > > > > > > What makes you think they are NOT honest??? > > They never have been and their behavior. you're talking about atheist, not christians.... if a christian girl tells me she believes in God...she is being honest. If an atheist says he doesn't believe in God...HE'S FUCKIN LYING!!!! You give a lie detector to both of them, no atheist can pass it! Be real here...
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2016-03-28 18:56 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <4hdjfbtee4vp42o0otu1okst1cftv4le7f@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #283228 |
On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 17:47:00 -0800, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <56F5EA14.525B@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >hypatiab7 wrote: >> >> On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 2:25:38 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote: >> > Jeanne Douglas wrote: >> > > >> > > In article <mec7fbh7drda7j82gbgrfsrbdltdbb8s4p@4ax.com>, >> > > Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> wrote: >> > > >> > > > On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:56:35 -0800, The Starmaker >> > > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > >The Starmaker wrote: >> > > > >> >> > > > >> to be continued.. >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >Atheist are Blind... >> > > > > >> > > > >wat i mean is.. >> > > > > >> > > > >Atheist have this mantra... >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!" >> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!" >> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!" >> > > > > >> > > > >But the question is...from Who???? >> > > > >> > > > The people who make the claims of course, >> > > > Who else? >> > > > >> > > > Personally I have stopped asking knowing that I >> > > > will not get an answer. If they do not offer up evidence >> > > > with their claims (or assertions) I just simply dismiss >> > > > them silently without even bothering to tell them >> > > >> > > I like to give them the opportunity to be honest. I don't expect them >> > > to, but I always like to give them the opportunity. >> > >> > >> > What makes you think they are NOT honest??? >> >> They never have been and their behavior. > >you're talking about atheist, not christians.... > > >if a christian girl tells me she believes in God...she is being honest. Why not? Belief can be in anything, and means nothing. > > >If an atheist says he doesn't believe in God...HE'S FUCKIN LYING!!!! Why? I do not seriously believe in anything that has no supporting evidence and I have never seen any such evidence for any god. > > >You give a lie detector to both of them, no atheist can pass it! > > >Be real here... Your opinion is noted. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-28 23:07 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <56FA29B8.425A@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #283339 |
Attila < wrote: > > On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 17:47:00 -0800, The Starmaker > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id > <56F5EA14.525B@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > >hypatiab7 wrote: > >> > >> On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 2:25:38 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote: > >> > Jeanne Douglas wrote: > >> > > > >> > > In article <mec7fbh7drda7j82gbgrfsrbdltdbb8s4p@4ax.com>, > >> > > Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:56:35 -0800, The Starmaker > >> > > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > >The Starmaker wrote: > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> to be continued.. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >Atheist are Blind... > >> > > > > > >> > > > >wat i mean is.. > >> > > > > > >> > > > >Atheist have this mantra... > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!" > >> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!" > >> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!" > >> > > > > > >> > > > >But the question is...from Who???? > >> > > > > >> > > > The people who make the claims of course, > >> > > > Who else? > >> > > > > >> > > > Personally I have stopped asking knowing that I > >> > > > will not get an answer. If they do not offer up evidence > >> > > > with their claims (or assertions) I just simply dismiss > >> > > > them silently without even bothering to tell them > >> > > > >> > > I like to give them the opportunity to be honest. I don't expect them > >> > > to, but I always like to give them the opportunity. > >> > > >> > > >> > What makes you think they are NOT honest??? > >> > >> They never have been and their behavior. > > > >you're talking about atheist, not christians.... > > > > > >if a christian girl tells me she believes in God...she is being honest. > > Why not? Belief can be in anything, and means nothing. I was talking about Honesty, ...not beliefs. You must be an atheists, yous don't know what honesty is. Let me say something that will probably be very differcult for yous to believe, ...I Don't Lie. I'm incapable of lying. I must have some kind of genetic defect...I juat don't lie! I always tell the truth. I get into trouble a lot because a lot of people don't like to hear the truth. I just don't know how to lie to them. Is there medicine I can take that will help me lie? A pill maybe. Maybe I have a brain injury.... People tell me I shoudn't tell the truth all the time...but how do you explain to people that I don't lie or I'm incapable of lying? Some of yous think it's scientifikly impossible... I simply, don't lie. I cannot lie. I don't know how...or it's too differcult.
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2016-03-29 04:50 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <77gkfbp05m3gi01q5rtfio6u56b04snql3@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #283359 |
On Mon, 28 Mar 2016 23:07:36 -0800, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <56FA29B8.425A@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >Attila < wrote: >> >> On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 17:47:00 -0800, The Starmaker >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id >> <56F5EA14.525B@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >> >> >hypatiab7 wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 2:25:38 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote: >> >> > Jeanne Douglas wrote: >> >> > > >> >> > > In article <mec7fbh7drda7j82gbgrfsrbdltdbb8s4p@4ax.com>, >> >> > > Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> wrote: >> >> > > >> >> > > > On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:56:35 -0800, The Starmaker >> >> > > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >The Starmaker wrote: >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> to be continued.. >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > >Atheist are Blind... >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > >wat i mean is.. >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > >Atheist have this mantra... >> >> > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!" >> >> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!" >> >> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!" >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > >But the question is...from Who???? >> >> > > > >> >> > > > The people who make the claims of course, >> >> > > > Who else? >> >> > > > >> >> > > > Personally I have stopped asking knowing that I >> >> > > > will not get an answer. If they do not offer up evidence >> >> > > > with their claims (or assertions) I just simply dismiss >> >> > > > them silently without even bothering to tell them >> >> > > >> >> > > I like to give them the opportunity to be honest. I don't expect them >> >> > > to, but I always like to give them the opportunity. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > What makes you think they are NOT honest??? >> >> >> >> They never have been and their behavior. >> > >> >you're talking about atheist, not christians.... >> > >> > >> >if a christian girl tells me she believes in God...she is being honest. >> >> Why not? Belief can be in anything, and means nothing. > > > >I was talking about Honesty, ...not beliefs. You must be an atheists, >yous don't know what honesty is. > >Let me say something that will probably be very differcult for yous to >believe, ...I Don't Lie. > > >I'm incapable of lying. I must have some kind of genetic defect...I juat >don't lie! > > >I always tell the truth. > > >I get into trouble a lot because a lot of people don't like to hear the >truth. I just don't know how to lie to them. > >Is there medicine I can take that will help me lie? A pill maybe. > > >Maybe I have a brain injury.... > > >People tell me I shoudn't tell the truth all the time...but how do you >explain to people >that I don't lie or I'm incapable of lying? > >Some of yous think it's scientifikly impossible... > > >I simply, don't lie. > > >I cannot lie. > >I don't know how...or it's too differcult. According to that long disjointed rambling (I think) you seem to feel somehow being an atheist requires lying while everyone else is totally honest. How very odd. But then. you do appear to be a bit odd. BTW, never lying does not mean always stating facts. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> |
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| Date | 2016-03-29 04:13 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <charlie-gordon1492-F41A90.04131829032016@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu> |
| In reply to | #283362 |
In article <77gkfbp05m3gi01q5rtfio6u56b04snql3@4ax.com>, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: > According to that long disjointed rambling (I think) you seem to feel > somehow being an atheist requires lying while everyone else is totally > honest. Atheists in general, just like everyone, are decent humans trying to get through life without uncausing unnecessary pain and suffering on anyone else. You live for what pain you can inflict on those differently dogma'd. You are special. You share the short bus with Duke. -- Any one who has common sense will remember that the bewilderments of the eye are of two kinds, and arise from two causes, either from coming out of the light or from going into the light, which is true of the mind's eye, quite as much as of the bodily eye.
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| From | Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2016-03-29 05:55 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1nukfbpvr4ev2l6oib6v6729jcgfgah2al@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #283364 |
WHERE'D YOU LEARN TO WRITE? I'M GUESSING AT BEZERKLEY? Saul Levy On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 04:13:18 -0700, je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote: >In article <77gkfbp05m3gi01q5rtfio6u56b04snql3@4ax.com>, > Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: > >> According to that long disjointed rambling (I think) you seem to feel >> somehow being an atheist requires lying while everyone else is totally >> honest. > >Atheists in general, just like everyone, are decent humans trying to get through >life without uncausing unnecessary pain and suffering on anyone else. > >You live for what pain you can inflict on those differently dogma'd. You are >special. You share the short bus with Duke.
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2016-03-30 05:06 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <kh5nfb1egcs3uocum92u8ngcv2prehak6a@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #283364 |
On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 04:13:18 -0700, je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> in alt.atheism with message-id <charlie-gordon1492-F41A90.04131829032016@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu> wrote: >In article <77gkfbp05m3gi01q5rtfio6u56b04snql3@4ax.com>, > Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: > >> According to that long disjointed rambling (I think) you seem to feel >> somehow being an atheist requires lying while everyone else is totally >> honest. > >Atheists in general, just like everyone, are decent humans trying to get through >life without uncausing unnecessary pain and suffering on anyone else. > >You live for what pain you can inflict on those differently dogma'd. You are >special. You share the short bus with Duke. I simply point out where an assertion has no underlying fact for support. A belief requires no support - anyone is free to believe whatever they wish. However, to present that belief as if it a fact requires supporting evidence. This is a difference many seem unable or unwilling to recognize. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> |
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| Date | 2016-03-30 11:06 +0100 |
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On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 05:06:12 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 04:13:18 -0700, je suis charly ><charlie-gordon1492@no.where> in alt.atheism with message-id ><charlie-gordon1492-F41A90.04131829032016@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu> >wrote: > >>In article <77gkfbp05m3gi01q5rtfio6u56b04snql3@4ax.com>, >> Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >> >>> According to that long disjointed rambling (I think) you seem to feel >>> somehow being an atheist requires lying while everyone else is totally >>> honest. >> >>Atheists in general, just like everyone, are decent humans trying to get through >>life without uncausing unnecessary pain and suffering on anyone else. >> >>You live for what pain you can inflict on those differently dogma'd. You are >>special. You share the short bus with Duke. > >I simply point out where an assertion has no underlying fact for >support. > >A belief requires no support - anyone is free to believe whatever they >wish. However, to present that belief as if it a fact requires >supporting evidence. This is a difference many seem unable or >unwilling to recognize. Especially when they claim it is 'The Truth' which to me shows how little regard they have for 'truth' or fact in favour of their worthless 'fatih' As Luther says "Faith must trample underfoot all sense, reason and understanding How you counter this form of madness? Les Hellawell Grreting from YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County Martin Luther wrote:: "Faith must trample underfoot all sense, reason and understanding Which means that if Luther practised what he preached nothing he ever said made any sense
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| From | je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> |
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| Date | 2016-03-30 03:53 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <charlie-gordon1492-EFA9CF.03534430032016@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu> |
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> >A belief requires no support - anyone is free to believe whatever they > >wish. However, to present that belief as if it a fact requires > >supporting evidence. This is a difference many seem unable or > >unwilling to recognize. > > Especially when they claim it is 'The Truth' which to me shows > how little regard they have for 'truth' or fact in favour of their > worthless 'fatih' Truth? Whose truth? Mine or yours? Show me the evidence of your truth. > As Luther says > "Faith must trample underfoot all sense, reason and understanding Luther? Lex Luther? He is a troublemaker. -- Any one who has common sense will remember that the bewilderments of the eye are of two kinds, and arise from two causes, either from coming out of the light or from going into the light, which is true of the mind's eye, quite as much as of the bodily eye.
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| From | Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> |
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| Date | 2016-03-30 12:46 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <d8dnfbh6pu0b73bboudl432nj8bc96q56u@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #283420 |
On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 03:53:44 -0700, je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote: >> >A belief requires no support - anyone is free to believe whatever they >> >wish. However, to present that belief as if it a fact requires >> >supporting evidence. This is a difference many seem unable or >> >unwilling to recognize. >> >> Especially when they claim it is 'The Truth' which to me shows >> how little regard they have for 'truth' or fact in favour of their >> worthless 'fatih' > >Truth? Whose truth? Mine or yours? Show me the evidence of your truth. 'They' being anybody who claims to know 'The truth' which does not include myself. Sorry I did not make that clear enough for you. I forgot that some people do not read posts for comprehension but for something to quibble. >> As Luther says >> "Faith must trample underfoot all sense, reason and understanding > >Luther? Lex Luther? He is a troublemaker. No he is fictional character. Martin Luther who I quoted was not fictional sadly Les Hellawell Grreting from YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County Martin Luther wrote:: "Faith must trample underfoot all sense, reason and understanding Which means that if Luther practised what he preached nothing he ever said made any sense
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| From | je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> |
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| Date | 2016-03-30 05:00 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <charlie-gordon1492-322344.05005530032016@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu> |
| In reply to | #283427 |
In article <d8dnfbh6pu0b73bboudl432nj8bc96q56u@4ax.com>, Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> wrote: > On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 03:53:44 -0700, je suis charly > <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote: > > >> >A belief requires no support - anyone is free to believe whatever they > >> >wish. However, to present that belief as if it a fact requires > >> >supporting evidence. This is a difference many seem unable or > >> >unwilling to recognize. > >> > >> Especially when they claim it is 'The Truth' which to me shows > >> how little regard they have for 'truth' or fact in favour of their > >> worthless 'fatih' > > > >Truth? Whose truth? Mine or yours? Show me the evidence of your truth. > > 'They' being anybody who claims to know 'The truth' which does not > include myself. Sorry I did not make that clear enough for you. I > forgot that some people do not read posts for comprehension but for > something to quibble. And you still do not present any evidence in favor of your truth. Or is expecting evidence rather than just blind assertions a quibble? At least Duke gives lip service to having faith, though he is equally intolerant to anyone who disagrees with his faith. -- Any one who has common sense will remember that the bewilderments of the eye are of two kinds, and arise from two causes, either from coming out of the light or from going into the light, which is true of the mind's eye, quite as much as of the bodily eye.
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| From | Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> |
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| Date | 2016-03-30 13:29 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <iehnfbpa1it5fe0he047vpj3hpoqqg5tf2@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #283428 |
On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 05:00:55 -0700, je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote: >In article <d8dnfbh6pu0b73bboudl432nj8bc96q56u@4ax.com>, > Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> wrote: > >> On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 03:53:44 -0700, je suis charly >> <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote: >> >> >> >A belief requires no support - anyone is free to believe whatever they >> >> >wish. However, to present that belief as if it a fact requires >> >> >supporting evidence. This is a difference many seem unable or >> >> >unwilling to recognize. >> >> >> >> Especially when they claim it is 'The Truth' which to me shows >> >> how little regard they have for 'truth' or fact in favour of their >> >> worthless 'fatih' >> > >> >Truth? Whose truth? Mine or yours? Show me the evidence of your truth. >> >> 'They' being anybody who claims to know 'The truth' which does not >> include myself. Sorry I did not make that clear enough for you. I >> forgot that some people do not read posts for comprehension but for >> something to quibble. > >And you still do not present any evidence in favor of your truth. Or is >expecting evidence rather than just blind assertions a quibble? Still not reading for comprehesion. Seems you need it spelling out: I AM NOT CLAIMING TO KNOW ANY TRUTH Have you got it now? > >At least Duke gives lip service to having faith, though he is equally intolerant >to anyone who disagrees with his faith. Les Hellawell Grreting from YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County Martin Luther wrote:: "Faith must trample underfoot all sense, reason and understanding Which means that if Luther practised what he preached nothing he ever said made any sense
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| From | je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> |
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| Date | 2016-03-30 06:25 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <charlie-gordon1492-3D348D.06255530032016@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu> |
| In reply to | #283429 |
In article <iehnfbpa1it5fe0he047vpj3hpoqqg5tf2@4ax.com>, Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> wrote: > >> >> Especially when they claim it is 'The Truth' which to me shows > >> >> how little regard they have for 'truth' or fact in favour of their > >> >> worthless 'fatih' > Still not reading for comprehesion. > > Seems you need it spelling out: > > I AM NOT CLAIMING TO KNOW ANY TRUTH > > Have you got it now? But still you are upset with Duke because he has the wrong Truth. Are you a usenet pitbull that just attacks people at random? -- Any one who has common sense will remember that the bewilderments of the eye are of two kinds, and arise from two causes, either from coming out of the light or from going into the light, which is true of the mind's eye, quite as much as of the bodily eye.
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| From | Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> |
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| Date | 2016-03-30 15:27 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <g8onfbpnbvng63ulk7eap8a6lpcj11ldsl@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #283430 |
On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 06:25:55 -0700, je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote: >In article <iehnfbpa1it5fe0he047vpj3hpoqqg5tf2@4ax.com>, > Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> wrote: > >> >> >> Especially when they claim it is 'The Truth' which to me shows >> >> >> how little regard they have for 'truth' or fact in favour of their >> >> >> worthless 'fatih' > >> Still not reading for comprehesion. >> >> Seems you need it spelling out: >> >> I AM NOT CLAIMING TO KNOW ANY TRUTH >> >> Have you got it now? > >But still you are upset with Duke because he has the wrong Truth. Are you a >usenet pitbull that just attacks people at random? Please cite where I write that Duke has 'the wrong' truth as I do not recall writing that. Les Hellawell Grreting from YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County Martin Luther wrote:: "Faith must trample underfoot all sense, reason and understanding Which means that if Luther practised what he preached nothing he ever said made any sense
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2016-03-31 03:51 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <jmlpfbhepcbrrsdpl5oojb58076aq6as77@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #283427 |
On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 12:46:15 +0100, Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> in alt.atheism with message-id <d8dnfbh6pu0b73bboudl432nj8bc96q56u@4ax.com> wrote: >On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 03:53:44 -0700, je suis charly ><charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote: > >>> >A belief requires no support - anyone is free to believe whatever they >>> >wish. However, to present that belief as if it a fact requires >>> >supporting evidence. This is a difference many seem unable or >>> >unwilling to recognize. >>> >>> Especially when they claim it is 'The Truth' which to me shows >>> how little regard they have for 'truth' or fact in favour of their >>> worthless 'fatih' >> >>Truth? Whose truth? Mine or yours? Show me the evidence of your truth. > >'They' being anybody who claims to know 'The truth' which does not >include myself. Sorry I did not make that clear enough for you. I >forgot that some people do not read posts for comprehension but for >something to quibble. > > >>> As Luther says >>> "Faith must trample underfoot all sense, reason and understanding >> >>Luther? Lex Luther? He is a troublemaker. > >No he is fictional character. > >Martin Luther who I quoted was not fictional sadly > >Les Hellawell >Grreting from >YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County > >Martin Luther wrote:: >"Faith must trample underfoot all sense, reason and understanding > >Which means that if Luther practised what he preached >nothing he ever said made any sense At least he broke the power of the catholic church. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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