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First post2016-01-30 12:22 -0800
Last post2016-02-04 23:34 -0500
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  Have you ever been at... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-01-30 12:22 -0800
    Have you ever been at... Twittering One <mournenwould@aol.com> - 2016-01-30 12:29 -0800
    Have you ever been at... Twittering One <mournenwould@aol.com> - 2016-01-30 12:30 -0800
      Have you ever been at... Twittering One <mournenwould@aol.com> - 2016-01-30 12:38 -0800
        Have you ever been at... Twittering One <mournenwould@aol.com> - 2016-01-30 12:39 -0800
          Have you ever been at... Twittering One <mournenwould@aol.com> - 2016-01-30 12:43 -0800
            Have you ever been at... Twittering One <mournenwould@aol.com> - 2016-01-30 12:45 -0800
              Have you ever been at... Twittering One <mournenwould@aol.com> - 2016-01-30 12:48 -0800
              Have you ever been at... Twittering One <mournenwould@aol.com> - 2016-01-30 12:48 -0800
    Re: Have you ever been at... boB <boB@theresnoplacelikehome.com> - 2016-01-30 13:11 -0800
      Re: Have you ever been at... djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-01-30 21:36 +0000
        Re: Have you ever been at... Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net> - 2016-01-30 16:22 -0700
          Re: Have you ever been at... Arc Michael <abookoflife@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-31 14:50 -0800
            Re: Have you ever been at... Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net> - 2016-01-31 16:17 -0700
        Re: Have you ever been at... wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-01-30 19:24 -0500
        Re: Have you ever been at... "Michael R N Dolbear" <me@privacy.net> - 2016-01-31 21:09 +0000
          Re: Have you ever been at... David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-01-31 15:40 -0600
    Re: Have you ever been at... Arc Michael <abookoflife@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-30 14:12 -0800
      Re: Have you ever been at... Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net> - 2016-02-01 07:35 -0700
        Re: Have you ever been at... Arc Michael <abookoflife@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-01 12:46 -0800
          Re: Have you ever been at... Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net> - 2016-02-01 15:45 -0700
    Re: Have you ever been at... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-01-31 10:20 -0800
      Re: Have you ever been at... Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-01-31 21:40 -0600
    Re: Have you ever been at... Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-01-31 21:39 -0600
      Re: Have you ever been at... Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-01-31 20:57 -0700
        Re: Have you ever been at... Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-01-31 21:11 -0700
          Re: Have you ever been at... Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-01-31 23:10 -0600
            Re: Have you ever been at... Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-01-31 23:53 -0700
          Re: Have you ever been at... Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> - 2016-02-01 07:49 +0100
        Re: Have you ever been at... wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-02-04 23:34 -0500

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#281697

FromSaul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net>
Date2016-02-01 15:45 -0700
Message-ID<tunvabphh86ogq98k93kjvvnlhr7a5brv5@4ax.com>
In reply to#281693
ARCie'S A FUCKING LIAR AGAIN!

YOU SURE LIE A LOT, FAGGOT!

Saul Levy


On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 12:46:00 -0800 (PST), Arc Michael
<abookoflife@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Monday, February 1, 2016 at 6:35:20 AM UTC-8, Saul Levy Hillaryclinton241@clintonemail.com wrote:
>> YOUR "MIND" IS ALREADY VERY FUCKED UP, ARCieFAGGOT!
>
>And Levy ( Jew) Jews taught me , so the teacher jew fucked my mind up. Get it fags? 
>> 
>> Saul Levy
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 14:12:38 -0800 (PST), Arc Michael
>> <abo.com> wrote:
>> 
>> >On Saturday, January 30, 2016 at 12:22:18 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
>> >> Have you ever been in two places at once?
>> >
>> >yep, during a massive neutrino bombardment.
>> >
>> >I just called it time travel. 
>> >
>> >
>> >I fucking do not recommend it, though. I severely fucks with your mind.

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#281652

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-01-31 10:20 -0800
Message-ID<56AE505F.520B@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#281612
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Have you ever been in two places at once?



one of the many ways is...

out of the body experience.

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#281672

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-01-31 21:40 -0600
Message-ID<n8mk4g$g9u$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#281652
On 1/31/2016 12:20 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> Have you ever been in two places at once?
>
>
>
> one of the many ways is...
>
> out of the body experience.
>

ha, you're dreaming!

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#281671

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-01-31 21:39 -0600
Message-ID<n8mk1t$g9u$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#281612
On 1/30/2016 2:22 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Have you ever been in two places at once?
>

sure, at home and on the internet,

sure, right foot is here, the left foot is about 2 foot away from right 
foot, two places, at once.

sure, ip on one computer says i'm in canada to observer, the other 
computer says i'm in mexico to same observer.

etc......


(malformed question)



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#281673

FromGreg Goss <gossg@gossg.org>
Date2016-01-31 20:57 -0700
Message-ID<dh83dgFdhc7U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#281671
Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>On 1/30/2016 2:22 PM, The Starmaker wrote:

>> Have you ever been in two places at once?
>>
>sure, ip on one computer says i'm in canada to observer, the other 
>computer says i'm in mexico to same observer.

When I switched ISPs in 2008, my new provider had just installed a new
router farm.  It took a fairly long time for the various location
service providers to figure out where my IP address was coming from.

Most websites thought I lived at the telco's head office, on the
Vancouver Burnaby border.  The Home Depot coupon that finally pushed
me into looking at what was going on was only good in BC, and I don't
live in BC.

I found seven companies on the web promising to provide location
services to other web sites.  When I tested them, three of them put me
at the telco corporate headquarters a couple of hundred feet outside
Vancouver.  One put me in Sacramento, one gave inconsistent responses
all over North America, one put me into graveyard in north central
Calgary (about 7 miles from my actual address) and one put me inside
the college grounds at SAIT about 11 miles from my actual address.  I
find it plausible that the telco might put a router farm inside a
technical college, but never figured out the graveyard.  The
transition from fiber to ADSL happens in a roadside telco box on the
other side of a park near my home about an eighth of a mile from my
home.

Calgary stretches much further southwards than northwards, so the
graveyard is neither a geographical center nor a population-weighted
center.

WalMart keeps trying to give me a Toronto list of stores.  I lived in
Toronto for sixteen months in (and after) 2004, but I've gone through
seven or eight computers since then and even switched browsers.  (I
think I was still on Safari back then.  When was Chrome invented?)
-- 
We are geeks.  Resistance is voltage over current.

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#281674

FromGreg Goss <gossg@gossg.org>
Date2016-01-31 21:11 -0700
Message-ID<dh8489Fdn0nU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#281673
Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> wrote:

>When I switched ISPs in 2008, my new provider had just installed a new
>router farm.  It took a fairly long time for the various location
>service providers to figure out where my IP address was coming from.
>
>Most websites thought I lived at the telco's head office, on the
>Vancouver Burnaby border.  The Home Depot coupon that finally pushed
>me into looking at what was going on was only good in BC, and I don't
>live in BC.
>
>I found seven companies on the web promising to provide location
>services to other web sites.  When I tested them, three of them put me
>at the telco corporate headquarters a couple of hundred feet outside
>Vancouver.  One put me in Sacramento, one gave inconsistent responses
>all over North America, one put me into graveyard in north central
>Calgary (about 7 miles from my actual address) and one put me inside
>the college grounds at SAIT about 11 miles from my actual address.  I
>find it plausible that the telco might put a router farm inside a
>technical college, but never figured out the graveyard.  The
>transition from fiber to ADSL happens in a roadside telco box on the
>other side of a park near my home about an eighth of a mile from my
>home.
>
>Calgary stretches much further southwards than northwards, so the
>graveyard is neither a geographical center nor a population-weighted
>center.
>
>WalMart keeps trying to give me a Toronto list of stores.  I lived in
>Toronto for sixteen months in (and after) 2004, but I've gone through
>seven or eight computers since then and even switched browsers.  (I
>think I was still on Safari back then.  When was Chrome invented?)

Google Maps gives me accurate directions starting from the actual
roadway nearest my bedroom, though that's not quite right according to
where my townhouse complex feeds into the official roads.

I'm not sure what permissions I've given Google over the years.  They
may be working from my userid, or Streetview probably memorized my
router.  I have two routers in series.  The "outer" one is fairly new
provided by my telco, and the second one (private against my
roommates) has been in service since 2005.

quick retest:

Google localizes me at the gate to my townhouse complex - looks like
the street address of my mailing address, which google knows as my
"home address".

whereamirightnow pops up a request from Chrome to allow it to know my
location.  When I say "OK", it puts me at the nearest road position to
my actual address.  This is NOT quite where google maps places me.

I decided to disallow where-am-i.net from knowing my location from
Chrome.  So they put me in Siberia.  It's telling what happens to
people who don't go along with the computer elite.  (grin).

ctrlq.org temporarily parks me in the White House until I allow Chrome
to tell it where I am.

The actual attempt of the test goes dramatically different from how it
went in 2008.  Back then, they actually tried.  Now they all just want
to ask my browser.


-- 
We are geeks.  Resistance is voltage over current.

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#281675

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-01-31 23:10 -0600
Message-ID<n8mpcn$l43$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#281674
On 1/31/2016 10:11 PM, Greg Goss wrote:
> Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> wrote:
>
>> When I switched ISPs in 2008, my new provider had just installed a new
>> router farm.  It took a fairly long time for the various location
>> service providers to figure out where my IP address was coming from.

>
> I'm not sure what permissions I've given Google over the years.  They
> may be working from my userid, or Streetview probably memorized my
> router.  I have two routers in series.  The "outer" one is fairly new
> provided by my telco, and the second one (private against my
> roommates) has been in service since 2005.

I want to try the two routers in series...
perhaps two wireless routers in series, but one needs to bridge(?) the 
middle one, what ever that means.


>
> quick retest:
>
> Google localizes me at the gate to my townhouse complex - looks like
> the street address of my mailing address, which google knows as my
> "home address".

they must have mapped your IP to that address (?) did you give it to 
google (somehow)  or is google using something else.  over here all the 
cable modems change IP address aobut every 4 months and there is no 
reporting to google.

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#281677

FromGreg Goss <gossg@gossg.org>
Date2016-01-31 23:53 -0700
Message-ID<dh8do6Ffp00U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#281675
Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:

>On 1/31/2016 10:11 PM, Greg Goss wrote:
>> Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> wrote:
>>
>>> When I switched ISPs in 2008, my new provider had just installed a new
>>> router farm.  It took a fairly long time for the various location
>>> service providers to figure out where my IP address was coming from.
>
>>
>> I'm not sure what permissions I've given Google over the years.  They
>> may be working from my userid, or Streetview probably memorized my
>> router.  I have two routers in series.  The "outer" one is fairly new
>> provided by my telco, and the second one (private against my
>> roommates) has been in service since 2005.
>> quick retest:
>>
>> Google localizes me at the gate to my townhouse complex - looks like
>> the street address of my mailing address, which google knows as my
>> "home address".
>
>they must have mapped your IP to that address (?) did you give it to 
>google (somehow)  or is google using something else.  over here all the 
>cable modems change IP address aobut every 4 months and there is no 
>reporting to google.

I gave google maps my home and work addresses so it could tell me
about traffic problems on my commute home after work.  I suspect
that's why it points to the outer street address which is some
distance from my actual unit.  The other services which ask Chrome for
permission to know my location point to the street which is closest to
my unit, which is around a corner from my official address.

I'm surprised that the location google gives me is different than the
one Chrome gives to websites, since both are using Google information.

>I want to try the two routers in series...
>perhaps two wireless routers in series, but one needs to bridge(?) the 
>middle one, what ever that means.

Both of mine have a wifi connection, but the bridge is by cat6 wiring.
The telco modem and router combo box is in the basement where all the
other services enter the building.  I ran a lot of wiring all over the
house (except for master bedroom where I couldn't visualize any easy
way to run wiring without working among the sixteen inches of fluff in
the attic).  The telco WiFi is used by my roommates.  The second
router plugs (via a long wire and a couple of sockets) into one of the
"LAN"  ports on the telco's modem-router.  

The second router is my personal net, that the roommates cannot see.
I have a large drive, a couple of printers, and the memory stick in my
scanner all visible on that net, but nobody but me uses it.  The
second router is upstairs, with a much better and more stable signal
to my bedroom.

I've never tried chaining WiFi links.  I've gone the other way.  I
have a netbook I never use anymore, and I've used it to bridge a
signal from the WiFi to a wired connection.  I've used it a few times
to load drivers to computers that weren't set up for WiFi yet.
Connecting to the netbook with a wire then pugging the WiFi stick into
a USB, allows Windows to auto-find the drivers for the WiFi stick.

I'm probably going to have to discard the two spare WiFi sticks.
Apparently they don't work in Win64.  A supposed driver is loaded,
then is shut down by the system immediately.
-- 
We are geeks.  Resistance is voltage over current.

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#281676

FromSjouke Burry <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll>
Date2016-02-01 07:49 +0100
Message-ID<56af00be$0$24063$e4fe514c@textnews.kpn.nl>
In reply to#281674
On 01.02.16 5:11, Greg Goss wrote:
> Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> wrote:
>
>> When I switched ISPs in 2008, my new provider had just installed a new
>> router farm.  It took a fairly long time for the various location
>> service providers to figure out where my IP address was coming from.
>>
>> Most websites thought I lived at the telco's head office, on the
>> Vancouver Burnaby border.  The Home Depot coupon that finally pushed
>> me into looking at what was going on was only good in BC, and I don't
>> live in BC.
>>
>> I found seven companies on the web promising to provide location
>> services to other web sites.  When I tested them, three of them put me
>> at the telco corporate headquarters a couple of hundred feet outside
>> Vancouver.  One put me in Sacramento, one gave inconsistent responses
>> all over North America, one put me into graveyard in north central
>> Calgary (about 7 miles from my actual address) and one put me inside
>> the college grounds at SAIT about 11 miles from my actual address.  I
>> find it plausible that the telco might put a router farm inside a
>> technical college, but never figured out the graveyard.  The
>> transition from fiber to ADSL happens in a roadside telco box on the
>> other side of a park near my home about an eighth of a mile from my
>> home.
>>
>> Calgary stretches much further southwards than northwards, so the
>> graveyard is neither a geographical center nor a population-weighted
>> center.
>>
>> WalMart keeps trying to give me a Toronto list of stores.  I lived in
>> Toronto for sixteen months in (and after) 2004, but I've gone through
>> seven or eight computers since then and even switched browsers.  (I
>> think I was still on Safari back then.  When was Chrome invented?)
>
> Google Maps gives me accurate directions starting from the actual
> roadway nearest my bedroom, though that's not quite right according to
> where my townhouse complex feeds into the official roads.
>
> I'm not sure what permissions I've given Google over the years.  They
> may be working from my userid, or Streetview probably memorized my
> router.  I have two routers in series.  The "outer" one is fairly new
> provided by my telco, and the second one (private against my
> roommates) has been in service since 2005.
>
> quick retest:
>
> Google localizes me at the gate to my townhouse complex - looks like
> the street address of my mailing address, which google knows as my
> "home address".
>
> whereamirightnow pops up a request from Chrome to allow it to know my
> location.  When I say "OK", it puts me at the nearest road position to
> my actual address.  This is NOT quite where google maps places me.
>
> I decided to disallow where-am-i.net from knowing my location from
> Chrome.  So they put me in Siberia.  It's telling what happens to
> people who don't go along with the computer elite.  (grin).
>
> ctrlq.org temporarily parks me in the White House until I allow Chrome
> to tell it where I am.
>
> The actual attempt of the test goes dramatically different from how it
> went in 2008.  Back then, they actually tried.  Now they all just want
> to ask my browser.
>
>
My browsere(ff ESR 24.5.0) is not supported,
and I seem to live between russia and china.
Dont you love the stupidity of some websites?
Lets see what IE does......
Same place , Mirinuga.......
This sure makes my day. :)

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#281724

Fromwdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr)
Date2016-02-04 23:34 -0500
Message-ID<n918p1$q64$1@panix2.panix.com>
In reply to#281673
In article <dh83dgFdhc7U1@mid.individual.net>,
Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> said:

> Calgary stretches much further southwards than northwards, so the
> graveyard is neither a geographical center nor a
> population-weighted center.

Maybe it was the geographical center of some sort of "We know he's
in there *somewhere*" region that their trace system had generated
for you.

-- wds

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