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Is the universe curved or flat?

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2015-12-11 13:56 -0800
Last post2015-12-20 10:46 -0800
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  Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-11 13:56 -0800
    Re: Is the universe curved or flat? David Staup <dstaup@charter.net> - 2015-12-11 16:34 -0600
      Re: Is the universe curved or flat? "G=EMC^2TreBert" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-11 16:06 -0800
        Re: Is the universe curved or flat? David Staup <dstaup@charter.net> - 2015-12-12 21:23 -0600
    Re: Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-11 15:16 -0800
      Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net> - 2015-12-12 09:23 -0700
    Re: Is the universe curved or flat? gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-11 18:40 -0600
      Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-12-12 17:37 +0100
    Re: Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-11 21:38 -0800
      Re: Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-13 12:59 -0800
        Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-13 15:05 -0600
          Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-12-13 22:54 +0100
          Re: Is the universe curved or flat? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-14 02:26 -0500
        Re: Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-13 18:40 -0800
        Re: Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-14 13:04 -0800
          Re: Is the universe curved or flat? palsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2015-12-14 20:33 -0800
          Re: Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-15 14:24 -0800
            Re: Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-15 15:16 -0800
              Re: Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-15 15:34 -0800
                Re: Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-16 23:15 -0800
                Re: Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-19 09:11 -0800
                  Re: Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-19 10:20 -0800
                    Re: Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-25 08:48 -0800
                      Re: Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-27 23:03 -0800
              Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-15 18:59 -0600
            Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-15 18:46 -0600
    Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net> - 2015-12-12 05:16 -0700
    Re: Is the universe curved or flat? "G=EMC^2TreBert" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-15 14:49 -0800
    Re: Is the universe curved or flat? "G=EMC^2TreBert" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-20 10:46 -0800

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#279993

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-12-19 09:11 -0800
Message-ID<56758FA6.5E97@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#279896
And people who come out with using the words 'curve and flat' in the same sentence are dumb:



"WMAP nailed down the curvature of space to
   within 0.4% of "flat" Euclidean."




Who do you think you're fooling?



Let me put it this way...

there is no such thing in outer space as '"flat" Euclidean'.


God does not play with "flat" Euclidean.



A lot of girls got what appears to be a flat butt, but if you look closer...it's curved.

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#279994

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-12-19 10:20 -0800
Message-ID<56759FF8.4210@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#279993
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> And people who come out with using the words 'curve and flat' in the same sentence are dumb:
> 
> "WMAP nailed down the curvature of space to
>    within 0.4% of "flat" Euclidean."
> 
> Who do you think you're fooling?
> 
> Let me put it this way...
> 
> there is no such thing in outer space as '"flat" Euclidean'.
> 
> God does not play with "flat" Euclidean.
> 
> A lot of girls got what appears to be a flat butt, but if you look closer...it's curved.


Now I'll explain the center of the universe...


if you blow up a balloon
you will notice
the balloon has
two centers..

the center is
in the middle where
all the air is at..

and the center of
the surface where
you blew the balloon.


Now the earth has 
two centers..

the middle
of the earth...

and the center
on the surface
of the earth...

it might have 
sealed up by now...

so it might be hard to find..
(not that anybody is looking)


The Starmaker

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#280269

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-12-25 08:48 -0800
Message-ID<567D736C.6B43@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#279994
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > And people who come out with using the words 'curve and flat' in the same sentence are dumb:
> >
> > "WMAP nailed down the curvature of space to
> >    within 0.4% of "flat" Euclidean."
> >
> > Who do you think you're fooling?
> >
> > Let me put it this way...
> >
> > there is no such thing in outer space as '"flat" Euclidean'.
> >
> > God does not play with "flat" Euclidean.
> >
> > A lot of girls got what appears to be a flat butt, but if you look closer...it's curved.
> 
> Now I'll explain the center of the universe...
> 
> if you blow up a balloon
> you will notice
> the balloon has
> two centers..
> 
> the center is
> in the middle where
> all the air is at..
> 
> and the center of
> the surface where
> you blew the balloon.
> 
> Now the earth has
> two centers..
> 
> the middle
> of the earth...
> 
> and the center
> on the surface
> of the earth...
> 
> it might have
> sealed up by now...
> 
> so it might be hard to find..
> (not that anybody is looking)
> 
> The Starmaker


Or...

if you draw a circle..
whether you do it manually
or with a compass...

it has a beginning
and an end to the 
drawing of a circle...
that is the center.

Might be hard to
detect now in the
universe...with all
that mess up there..

hard to see...
hard to spot
hard to detect
hard to idenify
hard to recognize
hard to ..observe

but it's there.


The Starmaker

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#280420

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-12-27 23:03 -0800
Message-ID<5680DED3.7C7F@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#280269
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > And people who come out with using the words 'curve and flat' in the same sentence are dumb:
> > >
> > > "WMAP nailed down the curvature of space to
> > >    within 0.4% of "flat" Euclidean."
> > >
> > > Who do you think you're fooling?
> > >
> > > Let me put it this way...
> > >
> > > there is no such thing in outer space as '"flat" Euclidean'.
> > >
> > > God does not play with "flat" Euclidean.
> > >
> > > A lot of girls got what appears to be a flat butt, but if you look closer...it's curved.
> >
> > Now I'll explain the center of the universe...
> >
> > if you blow up a balloon
> > you will notice
> > the balloon has
> > two centers..
> >
> > the center is
> > in the middle where
> > all the air is at..
> >
> > and the center of
> > the surface where
> > you blew the balloon.
> >
> > Now the earth has
> > two centers..
> >
> > the middle
> > of the earth...
> >
> > and the center
> > on the surface
> > of the earth...
> >
> > it might have
> > sealed up by now...
> >
> > so it might be hard to find..
> > (not that anybody is looking)
> >
> > The Starmaker
> 
> Or...
> 
> if you draw a circle..
> whether you do it manually
> or with a compass...
> 
> it has a beginning
> and an end to the
> drawing of a circle...
> that is the center.
> 
> Might be hard to
> detect now in the
> universe...with all
> that mess up there..
> 
> hard to see...
> hard to spot
> hard to detect
> hard to idenify
> hard to recognize
> hard to ..observe
> 
> but it's there.
> 
> The Starmaker



it's probably the 'coolest' part of the universe, not the hottest.

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#279899

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-15 18:59 -0600
Message-ID<t-2dnRiOhsYVKu3LnZ2dnUU7-acAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#279895
On 12/15/15 5:16 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> a sound, especially one that is loud or unpleasant or that causes
> disturbance. Like a big bang!


   Sounds of the BB
> http://faculty.washington.edu/jcramer/BBSound.html
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJyJ8Xjllzk
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa2DYSu0E78





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#279898

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-15 18:46 -0600
Message-ID<t-2dnRmOhsYeKe3LnZ2dnUU7-aednZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#279891
On 12/15/15 4:24 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> The background is not 'microwave'...it's RADIO waves.



Surprise -- Microwaves are in the short end of the radio spectrum
> http://planck.caltech.edu/epo/images/COBE_CMB_spectrum.jpg




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#279826

FromSaul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net>
Date2015-12-12 05:16 -0700
Message-ID<6v3o6bdju4ebtmttqbsg8h6mnlkdgmu3k0@4ax.com>
In reply to#279813
PLEASE DO SO, YOUR ASS IS CURVED!

Saul Levy


On Fri, 11 Dec 2015 13:56:13 -0800, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>if you say both, i'll shoot myself!

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#279892

From"G=EMC^2TreBert" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-15 14:49 -0800
Message-ID<32fdc902-5f8a-412f-8346-97ef1b08a1ca@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#279813
On Friday, December 11, 2015 at 1:56:06 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> if you say both, i'll shoot myself!

Universe is in motion,and motion creates changes,thus flat round and saddle shaped have their own space shape in there spacetime. TreBert

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#280035

From"G=EMC^2TreBert" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-20 10:46 -0800
Message-ID<762f0988-f93c-4677-ae35-915b2ef7aea5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#279813
On Friday, December 11, 2015 at 1:56:06 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> if you say both, i'll shoot myself!

Flat locally, curved over vast distance,and round over all. TreBert

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