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| Started by | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| First post | 2015-12-22 14:08 -0800 |
| Last post | 2015-12-23 19:24 +1100 |
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Where Time Is It? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-22 14:08 -0800
Re: Where Time Is It? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 16:17 -0600
Re: Where Time Is It? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-12-22 23:39 +0100
Re: Where Time Is It? "G=EMC^2TreBert" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 15:59 -0800
Re: Where Time Is It? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-22 22:27 -0800
Re: Where Time Is It? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 08:09 +0100
Re: Where Time Is It? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-22 23:36 -0800
Re: Where Time Is It? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 08:43 +0100
Re: Where Time Is It? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 08:50 +0100
Re: Where Time Is It? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 08:57 +0100
Re: Where Time Is It? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 05:24 -0500
Re: Where Time Is It? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 12:31 +0100
Re: Where Time Is It? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 07:00 -0500
Re: Where Time Is It? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 13:11 +0100
Re: Where Time Is It? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-25 12:19 -0800
Re: Where Time Is It? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-12-23 12:21 +0100
Re: Where Time Is It? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-12-23 12:16 +0100
Re: Where Time Is It? Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net> - 2015-12-24 05:35 -0700
Re: Where Time Is It? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-22 22:54 -0800
Re: Where Time Is It? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 08:14 +0100
Re: Where Time Is It? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 08:25 +0100
Re: Where Time Is It? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-12-23 12:17 +0100
Re: Where Time Is It? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-24 12:32 -0800
Re: Where Time Is It? Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net> - 2015-12-24 19:53 -0700
Re: Where Time Is It? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-24 22:48 -0800
Re: Where Time Is It? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-12-27 17:51 +0100
Re: Where Time Is It? Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net> - 2015-12-24 05:36 -0700
Re: Where Time Is It? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-12-23 19:24 +1100
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-22 14:08 -0800 |
| Subject | Where Time Is It? |
| Message-ID | <5679C9C8.605E@ix.netcom.com> |
I still cannot get over how people say space time are both spacetime but then they claim time is in some other dimension..like a 4th. Time exist in the 3rd dimension.. not some imaginary 4th, 5th, etc. There is no 4th dimension. It's not Science...it's science fiction.
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-22 16:17 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <LOCdndsljKF-VuTLnZ2dnUU7-eWdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #280113 |
On 12/22/15 4:08 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > I still cannot get over how people say > space time are both spacetime > but then they claim time is > in some other dimension..like a 4th. -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> |
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| Date | 2015-12-22 23:39 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <n5cjfq$tbs$1@node2.news.atman.pl> |
| In reply to | #280113 |
Użytkownik "The Starmaker" napisał w wiadomości grup dyskusyjnych:5679C9C8.605E@ix.netcom.com... |I still cannot get over how people say |space time are both spacetime |but then they claim time is |in some other dimension..like a 4th. What is here to get over? A bunch of idiots cheerfully mumbles. That's all.
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| From | "G=EMC^2TreBert" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-22 15:59 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <883f7912-f872-47a5-aa11-b96258e0993a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #280116 |
On Tuesday, December 22, 2015 at 2:39:55 PM UTC-8, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > Użytkownik "The Starmaker" napisał w wiadomości grup > dyskusyjnych:5679C9C8.605E@ix.netcom.com... > > |I still cannot get over how people say > |space time are both spacetime > |but then they claim time is > |in some other dimension..like a 4th. > > What is here to get over? > A bunch of idiots cheerfully mumbles. > That's all. Time+Space =SpaceTime and that is all there is once the universe has gone beyond its outer limit of accelerated expansion. TreBert
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-22 22:27 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <567A3EBA.1FF3@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #280113 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > I still cannot get over how people say > space time are both spacetime > but then they claim time is > in some other dimension..like a 4th. > > Time exist > in the 3rd dimension.. > not some imaginary > 4th, 5th, etc. > > There is no 4th dimension. > > It's not Science...it's science fiction. For example if there was a 4th dimension, a inverse-square law could not exist.
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| From | Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-23 08:09 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <n5dh62$9hm$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #280126 |
Dne 23/12/2015 v 07:27 The Starmaker napsal(a): > The Starmaker wrote: >> >> I still cannot get over how people say >> space time are both spacetime >> but then they claim time is >> in some other dimension..like a 4th. >> >> Time exist >> in the 3rd dimension.. >> not some imaginary >> 4th, 5th, etc. >> >> There is no 4th dimension. >> >> It's not Science...it's science fiction. > > > For example if there was a 4th dimension, a inverse-square law could not > exist. > Anything, nonsense or not, looks like nonsense before you understand it. So saying something is nonsense before you understand it is - nonsense. -- Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer ) Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-22 23:36 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <567A4EE2.467D@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #280128 |
Poutnik wrote: > > Dne 23/12/2015 v 07:27 The Starmaker napsal(a): > > The Starmaker wrote: > >> > >> I still cannot get over how people say > >> space time are both spacetime > >> but then they claim time is > >> in some other dimension..like a 4th. > >> > >> Time exist > >> in the 3rd dimension.. > >> not some imaginary > >> 4th, 5th, etc. > >> > >> There is no 4th dimension. > >> > >> It's not Science...it's science fiction. > > > > > > For example if there was a 4th dimension, a inverse-square law could not > > exist. > > > Anything, nonsense or not, > looks like nonsense before you understand it. > > So saying something is nonsense > before you understand it is - nonsense. How many dimensions does a square have? 2 How many dimensions does a cube have? 3 Where Time Is It?
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| From | Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-23 08:43 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <n5dj6o$e7v$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #280132 |
Dne 23/12/2015 v 08:36 The Starmaker napsal(a): > Poutnik wrote: >> >> Dne 23/12/2015 v 07:27 The Starmaker napsal(a): >>> The Starmaker wrote: >>>> >>>> I still cannot get over how people say >>>> space time are both spacetime >>>> but then they claim time is >>>> in some other dimension..like a 4th. >>>> >>>> Time exist >>>> in the 3rd dimension.. >>>> not some imaginary >>>> 4th, 5th, etc. >>>> >>>> There is no 4th dimension. >>>> >>>> It's not Science...it's science fiction. >>> >>> >>> For example if there was a 4th dimension, a inverse-square law could not >>> exist. >>> >> Anything, nonsense or not, >> looks like nonsense before you understand it. >> >> So saying something is nonsense >> before you understand it is - nonsense. > > > How many dimensions does a square have? 2 > > How many dimensions does a cube have? 3 > Dimension values of both depend on time, respectively your speed wrt them, and time is contained in speed. -- Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer ) Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.
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| From | Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-23 08:50 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <n5djjd$g2c$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #280132 |
Dne 23/12/2015 v 08:36 The Starmaker napsal(a): > > How many dimensions does a square have? 2 > How many dimensions does a cube have? 3 > Where Time Is It? You need to start think about dimensions as number of independent values needed to describe the point position. 3 dimensions are not enough anymore, pointing to different points for mutually moving observers. Points determined by 4 coordinates of space-time always points to the same point. -- Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer ) Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.
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| From | Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-23 08:57 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <n5djvp$h18$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #280132 |
Dne 23/12/2015 v 08:36 The Starmaker napsal(a): > > How many dimensions does a square have? 2 > How many dimensions does a cube have? 3 > 2/3 dimensions describe a square/cube as a square cube only at a special circumstance from many other possibilities. Generally 4 dimensions are needed for their proper shapes and placements. Similarly 2 dimensions describe a point position in 3D space only if it by chance stays at supposed z coordinate. -- Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer ) Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.
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| From | "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-23 05:24 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.30e44075a3c2c4a2989d21@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #280136 |
In article <n5djvp$h18$1@dont-email.me>, poutnik4nntp@gmail.com says... > > Dne 23/12/2015 v 08:36 The Starmaker napsal(a): > > > > > How many dimensions does a square have? 2 > > How many dimensions does a cube have? 3 > > > > 2/3 dimensions describe a square/cube > as a square cube only at a special circumstance > from many other possibilities. > > Generally 4 dimensions are needed > for their proper shapes and placements. > > Similarly 2 dimensions describe a point position in 3D space > only if it by chance stays at supposed z coordinate. Are you Starmaker's girlfriend or something? You reply to every single one of his lunatic posts. I don't want to killfile you because unlike Starmaker you are not an idiot, but by replying to every post the idiot makes you clutter up the newsgroup with _crap_.
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| From | Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-23 12:31 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <n5e0im$ppm$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #280138 |
Dne 23/12/2015 v 11:24 J. Clarke napsal(a): > > Are you Starmaker's girlfriend or something? You reply to every single > one of his lunatic posts. I don't want to killfile you because unlike > Starmaker you are not an idiot, but by replying to every post the idiot > makes you clutter up the newsgroup with _crap_. > Keep personal offenses at the bay. Your counting is not good, as I definitely answer just to some of them. There is much worse junks in the sci.physics* groups. Why not to kill the thread or the subthread ? -- Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer ) Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.
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| From | "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-23 07:00 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.30e456d29e28a707989d24@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #280142 |
In article <n5e0im$ppm$1@dont-email.me>, poutnik4nntp@gmail.com says... > > Dne 23/12/2015 v 11:24 J. Clarke napsal(a): > > > > Are you Starmaker's girlfriend or something? You reply to every single > > one of his lunatic posts. I don't want to killfile you because unlike > > Starmaker you are not an idiot, but by replying to every post the idiot > > makes you clutter up the newsgroup with _crap_. > > > > Keep personal offenses at the bay. Your counting > is not good, as I definitely answer just to some of them. Why do you answer any of them? > There is much worse junks in the sci.physics* groups. So what? > Why not to kill the thread or the subthread ? Because pretty soon there's going to be another huge stack of posts from you replying to the idiot.
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| From | Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-23 13:11 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <n5e2so$21e$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #280143 |
Dne 23/12/2015 v 13:00 J. Clarke napsal(a): > In article <n5e0im$ppm$1@dont-email.me>, poutnik4nntp@gmail.com says... >> >> Dne 23/12/2015 v 11:24 J. Clarke napsal(a): >>> >>> Are you Starmaker's girlfriend or something? You reply to every single >>> one of his lunatic posts. I don't want to killfile you because unlike >>> Starmaker you are not an idiot, but by replying to every post the idiot >>> makes you clutter up the newsgroup with _crap_. >>> >> >> Keep personal offenses at the bay. Your counting >> is not good, as I definitely answer just to some of them. > > Why do you answer any of them? Why do you ever react ? His post are at least to topic, even if he has no clue. > >> There is much worse junks in the sci.physics* groups. > > So what? So that. Focus on them. > >> Why not to kill the thread or the subthread ? > > Because pretty soon there's going to be another huge stack of posts from > you replying to the idiot. Are you sure you are much better, posting meta posts ? It is like saying I am not salting my soup because there is too little of salt. For now, your posts approach trolling. -- Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer ) Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-25 12:19 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <567DA4CD.1DA6@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #280138 |
J. Clarke wrote: > > In article <n5djvp$h18$1@dont-email.me>, poutnik4nntp@gmail.com says... > > > > Dne 23/12/2015 v 08:36 The Starmaker napsal(a): > > > > > > > > How many dimensions does a square have? 2 > > > How many dimensions does a cube have? 3 > > > > > > > 2/3 dimensions describe a square/cube > > as a square cube only at a special circumstance > > from many other possibilities. > > > > Generally 4 dimensions are needed > > for their proper shapes and placements. > > > > Similarly 2 dimensions describe a point position in 3D space > > only if it by chance stays at supposed z coordinate. > > Are you Starmaker's girlfriend or something? You reply to every single > one of his lunatic posts. I don't want to killfile you because unlike > Starmaker you are not an idiot, but by replying to every post the idiot > makes you clutter up the newsgroup with _crap_. The person with the complaint, is the person with the problem. - The Starmaker
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| From | Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> |
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| Date | 2015-12-23 12:21 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <n5e03d$865$1@node2.news.atman.pl> |
| In reply to | #280132 |
Użytkownik "The Starmaker" napisał w wiadomości grup dyskusyjnych:567A4EE2.467D@ix.netcom.com... |How many dimensions does a square have? 2 |How many dimensions does a cube have? 3 Squares and cubes are euclidean. According to The Shit, there is no such things.
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| From | Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> |
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| Date | 2015-12-23 12:16 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <n5dvq7$7va$1@node2.news.atman.pl> |
| In reply to | #280128 |
Użytkownik "Poutnik" napisał w wiadomości grup dyskusyjnych:n5dh62$9hm$1@dont-email.me... |Anything, nonsense or not, |looks like nonsense before you understand it. Does it really? Have you heard about duck test, poor idiot?
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| From | Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2015-12-24 05:35 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <tipn7blst6elrl1ic8sh0oftub5q792kbm@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #280126 |
THE FAKER STRIKES AGAIN! THERE IS NO FAKER! FUCK OFF, BIMBO! Saul Levy On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 22:27:06 -0800, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >The Starmaker wrote: >> >> I still cannot get over how people say >> space time are both spacetime >> but then they claim time is >> in some other dimension..like a 4th. >> >> Time exist >> in the 3rd dimension.. >> not some imaginary >> 4th, 5th, etc. >> >> There is no 4th dimension. >> >> It's not Science...it's science fiction. > > >For example if there was a 4th dimension, a inverse-square law could not >exist.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-22 22:54 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <567A452C.1EA9@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #280113 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > I still cannot get over how people say > space time are both spacetime > but then they claim time is > in some other dimension..like a 4th. > > Time exist > in the 3rd dimension.. > not some imaginary > 4th, 5th, etc. > > There is no 4th dimension. > > It's not Science...it's science fiction. In other words, if you cannot observe or test a 4th dimension... then it's not science. It's science fiction. Now, why do others say Time is the 4th dimension... i have no idea. It's insanity.
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| From | Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-23 08:14 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <n5dhgj$9hm$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #280127 |
Dne 23/12/2015 v 07:54 The Starmaker napsal(a): > > In other words, > if you cannot > observe or test > a 4th dimension... You can. Read any introduction to Special Relativity. -- Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer ) Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.
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