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Re: Where is the center of the universe?

Started bySam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
First post2015-11-20 17:45 -0600
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  Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-20 17:45 -0600
    Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-20 23:48 -0800
      Re: Where is the center of the universe? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 10:27 +0100
        Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 05:13 -0500
          Re: Where is the center of the universe? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 12:57 +0100
            Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 13:44 -0500
              Re: Where is the center of the universe? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 20:01 +0100
                Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 14:17 -0500
              Re: Where is the center of the universe? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 20:01 +0100
                Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 14:22 -0500
      Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 08:05 -0600
        Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 13:48 -0500
          Re: Where is the center of the universe? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-11-23 10:21 -0600
            Re: Where is the center of the universe? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-11-23 17:34 +0100
            Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-23 11:31 -0800
              Re: Where is the center of the universe? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-11-23 15:54 -0500
                Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-23 13:43 -0800
                  Re: Where is the center of the universe? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-11-23 16:49 -0500
                    Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-23 16:17 -0800
                Re: Where is the center of the universe? dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-24 16:52 -0500
                  Re: Where is the center of the universe? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-11-24 22:24 +0000
      Re: Where is the center of the universe? Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net> - 2015-11-21 07:13 -0700
        Re: Where is the center of the universe? "Notroll2015" <notroll2015@charter.net> - 2015-11-21 12:48 -0600
          Re: Where is the center of the universe? Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net> - 2015-11-21 14:10 -0700
    Re: Where is the center of the universe? dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-21 06:43 -0500
      Re: There's nothing special about the start of "the big bang". benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 13:45 -0500
        Re: There's nothing special about the start of "the big bang". "Notroll2015" <notroll2015@charter.net> - 2015-11-21 12:51 -0600
        Re: There's nothing special about the start of "the big bang". Edward Stansfield <stansfield5REM6@linuxmail.org> - 2015-11-21 14:11 -0500
      Re: Where is the center of the universe? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-11-21 20:37 +0000
        Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-21 21:06 -0800
          Re: Where is the center of the universe? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-11-22 11:43 +0000
            Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 09:01 -0500
              Re: Where is the center of the universe? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-11-22 14:59 +0000
            Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-22 14:02 -0800
              Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 16:32 -0600
          Re: Where is the center of the universe? Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net> - 2015-11-22 07:18 -0700
      Re: Where is the center of the universe? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-11-23 10:51 -0600
        Re: Where is the center of the universe? Arc Michael <abookoflife@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-24 13:57 -0800
        Re: Where is the center of the universe? dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-24 17:07 -0500
          Re: Where is the center of the universe? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-11-24 22:48 +0000
            Re: Where is the center of the universe? Arc Michael <abookoflife@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-24 17:01 -0800
              Re: Where is the center of the universe? Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net> - 2015-11-25 01:20 -0700
                Re: Where is the center of the universe? Arc Michael <abookoflife@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-25 10:51 -0800
                  Re: Where is the center of the universe? Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net> - 2015-12-03 18:13 -0700
            Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-24 21:47 -0800
              Re: Where is the center of the universe? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-11-25 10:32 +0000
                Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-25 09:47 -0800
                  Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-25 21:36 -0800
                    Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-26 14:22 -0800
                      Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-26 14:27 -0800
                      Re: Where is the center of the universe? Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net> - 2015-11-26 15:39 -0700
                    Re: Where is the center of the universe? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-11-27 00:48 +0000
                      Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-26 17:34 -0800
                  Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-01 21:52 -0800
                    Re: Where is the center of the universe? Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net> - 2015-12-02 09:49 -0700
          Re: Where is the center of the universe? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-11-25 09:59 -0600
            Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-25 11:16 -0500
              Re: Where is the center of the universe? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-11-25 11:02 -0600
                Re: Where is the center of the universe? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-11-25 18:47 +0100
                Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-25 10:06 -0800
                  Re: Where is the center of the universe? Arc Michael <abookoflife@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-25 10:52 -0800
                  Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-25 14:04 -0600
                    Re: Where is the center of the universe? Arc Michael <abookoflife@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-25 12:38 -0800
                      Re: Where is the center of the universe? Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net> - 2015-11-25 14:23 -0700
                        Re: Where is the center of the universe? "Notroll2015" <notroll2015@charter.net> - 2015-11-25 15:51 -0600
                          Re: Where is the center of the universe? Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net> - 2015-11-29 12:40 -0700
            Re: Where is the center of the universe? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-11-25 17:50 +0100
            Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-25 10:01 -0800
              Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-25 14:05 -0600
                Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-25 12:42 -0800

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#279441

FromArc Michael <abookoflife@yahoo.com>
Date2015-11-25 10:52 -0800
Message-ID<d221f929-a5a5-4d49-94e8-6fe15af8d39e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#279437
On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 10:06:41 AM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> Tom Roberts wrote:
> > 
> > On 11/25/15 11/25/15 - 10:16 AM, benj wrote:
> > > On 11/25/2015 10:59 AM, Tom Roberts wrote:
> > >> But they _ARE_ reasonable descriptions to the people who count: experts
> > >> interested in the issues involved.
> > >
> > > Actually there is another option: Fantasy and arrogance. Simply make up your
> > > own stories and and arrogantly assure anyone who will listen that they are
> > > all how it is even though they really don't make common sense.
> > 
> > Yes, all too may people around here behave that way.
> > 
> > But physicists like myself do not. Our theories/models have an important aspect
> > that those others do not: experimental and observational confirmation, and
> > absence of refutation.
> > 
> >         Note that common sense has no place in physics, except
> >         for regimes in which it was developed (i.e. at size
> >         scales from mm to km, time scales from seconds to years,
> >         and speeds up to a km/sec or so.
> > 
> >         IOW: there is no requirement that nature make sense.
> >         (It is our remarkable good fortune that much of nature
> >         can be described mathematically.)
> > 
> > Tom Roberts
> 
> 
> Nature makes no sense, Math makes sense. Which do you prefer?

we prefer you welfare Canadians stay out of our US Arabian business. D'accord?

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#279449

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-25 14:04 -0600
Message-ID<j-ednXhlho7ZicvLnZ2dnUU7-d-dnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#279437
On 11/25/15 12:06 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Nature makes no sense, Math makes sense. Which do you prefer?


   Mathematics models the nature that makes no sense to you!  :-o



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#279451

FromArc Michael <abookoflife@yahoo.com>
Date2015-11-25 12:38 -0800
Message-ID<4532dd86-52c9-484f-a467-4ad78bf8b7f0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#279449
On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 12:04:21 PM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 11/25/15 12:06 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Nature makes no sense, Math makes sense. Which do you prefer?
> 
> 
>    Mathematics models the nature that makes no sense to you!  :-o
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
> to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
> community, and physics-related social issues.

when the mental doctor hands him a spoon and a fork, he cannot tell the doctor if there is any difference between the two utensils.

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#279459

FromSaul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net>
Date2015-11-25 14:23 -0700
Message-ID<5i9c5b5t8q707tmqtvq411u3qbk1mr2935@4ax.com>
In reply to#279451
THEY TEACH SHIT LIKE THAT AT BEZERKLEY?

NO WONDER YOU WENT INTO BASKETWEAVING DESIGN!

YOU UGLY FUCKING PIECE OF ARCieSHIT!

Saul Levy


On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 12:38:09 -0800 (PST), Arc Michael
<abookoflife@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 12:04:21 PM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> On 11/25/15 12:06 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> > Nature makes no sense, Math makes sense. Which do you prefer?
>> 
>> 
>>    Mathematics models the nature that makes no sense to you!  :-o
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
>> to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
>> community, and physics-related social issues.
>
>when the mental doctor hands him a spoon and a fork, he cannot tell the doctor if there is any difference between the two utensils.

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#279461

From"Notroll2015" <notroll2015@charter.net>
Date2015-11-25 15:51 -0600
Message-ID<n35agj$svj$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#279459

"Saul Levy"  wrote in message 
news:5i9c5b5t8q707tmqtvq411u3qbk1mr2935@4ax.com...

THEY TEACH SHIT LIKE THAT AT BEZERKLEY?

NO WONDER YOU WENT INTO BASKETWEAVING DESIGN!

YOU UGLY FUCKING PIECE OF ARCieSHIT!

Saul Levy


On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 12:38:09 -0800 (PST), Arc Michael
<abookoflife@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 12:04:21 PM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> On 11/25/15 12:06 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> > Nature makes no sense, Math makes sense. Which do you prefer?
>>
>>
>>    Mathematics models the nature that makes no sense to you!  :-o
>>
>>
>>
>> sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
>> to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
>> community, and physics-related social issues.
>
>when the mental doctor hands him a spoon and a fork, he cannot tell the 
>doctor if there is any difference between the two utensils.

******************************
Solly can't tell the difference because most of the food he eats comes in a 
bucket and the only utensil provided is a spork.

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#279547

FromSaul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net>
Date2015-11-29 12:40 -0700
Message-ID<84lm5btao7dk4s6v9ark9m8hecjlaqeo0j@4ax.com>
In reply to#279461
LYING FUCKING TROLL!

Saul Levy


On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 15:51:20 -0600, "Notroll2015"
<notroll2015@charter.net> wrote:

>"Saul Levy"  wrote in message 
>news:5i9c5b5t8q707tmqtvq411u3qbk1mr2935@4ax.com...
>
>THEY TEACH SHIT LIKE THAT AT BEZERKLEY?
>
>NO WONDER YOU WENT INTO BASKETWEAVING DESIGN!
>
>YOU UGLY FUCKING PIECE OF ARCieSHIT!
>
>Saul Levy
>
>
>On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 12:38:09 -0800 (PST), Arc Michael
><abookoflife@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 12:04:21 PM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
>>> On 11/25/15 12:06 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> > Nature makes no sense, Math makes sense. Which do you prefer?
>>>
>>>
>>>    Mathematics models the nature that makes no sense to you!  :-o
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
>>> to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
>>> community, and physics-related social issues.
>>
>>when the mental doctor hands him a spoon and a fork, he cannot tell the 
>>doctor if there is any difference between the two utensils.
>
>******************************
>Solly can't tell the difference because most of the food he eats comes in a 
>bucket and the only utensil provided is a spork.

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#279428

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2015-11-25 17:50 +0100
Message-ID<n34otm$sav$1@node2.news.atman.pl>
In reply to#279424

Użytkownik "Tom Roberts"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
dyskusyjnych:keudnSAXhYl3R8jLnZ2dnUU7_8ydnZ2d@giganews.com...

|But they _ARE_ reasonable descriptions to the people who count: experts
|interested in the issues involved.

:)

|That lay people like yourself don't  understand them is not of concern

That's why some day these people will simply stop paying for your
moronic mumble.

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#279436

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-11-25 10:01 -0800
Message-ID<5655F78B.6ED1@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#279424
Tom Roberts wrote:
> 
> On 11/24/15 11/24/15 - 4:07 PM, dvus wrote:
> > It seems as though no one can say what the "shape" of the Universe really is,
> 
> Yes. Because we're pretty sure that the universe extends considerably beyond
> what we can observe.


What do you mean by "what we can observe"? You get on a boat..
you keep going until you reached the end of the universe, then...you observe.

In other words, you look, and see.

And what do you see? considerably beyond
what You can observe.

But to say "we're pretty sure that the universe extends considerably beyond what we can observe." Is nonsence. 


To get beyond what you can see, you simply keep moving forward.


But you people seem to be limited by other peoples limitations.


If you blow up a balloon, where is the edge? It's at the little part with the hole where you blew air into the ballon.

But for some reason you people believe the balloon has no edge.

I'm dumbfounded!

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#279450

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-25 14:05 -0600
Message-ID<j-ednXtlho4MicvLnZ2dnUU7-d8AAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#279436
On 11/25/15 12:01 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> What do you mean by "what we can observe"? You get on a boat..
> you keep going until you reached the end of the universe, then...you observe.


   There isn't any "end of the universe"!   :-o



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#279452

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-11-25 12:42 -0800
Message-ID<56561D46.405C@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#279450
Sam Wormley wrote:
> 
> On 11/25/15 12:01 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > What do you mean by "what we can observe"? You get on a boat..
> > you keep going until you reached the end of the universe, then...you observe.
> 
>    There isn't any "end of the universe"!   :-o
> 
> --
> 

Did you bother to look?

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