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  Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-14 12:29 -0800
    Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net> - 2015-11-14 13:50 -0700
    Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-14 15:37 -0600
    Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. "G=EMC^2TreBert" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-11-14 14:09 -0800
    Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-11-15 10:34 +0800
      Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-15 05:32 +0000
        Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2015-11-14 21:50 -0800
          Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-15 07:22 +0000
            Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 07:12 -0500
        Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 07:11 -0500
        Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-11-16 14:16 +0800
          Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 10:14 -0600
            Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-11-16 17:56 +0100
              Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 11:06 -0600
                Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-11-16 18:28 +0100
                  Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 11:59 -0600
                    Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-11-16 19:02 +0100
        Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. "G=EMC^2TreBert" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 16:11 -0800
          Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net> - 2015-11-18 08:38 -0700
          Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. "G=EMC^2TreBert" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-03 15:39 -0800
    Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-11-15 08:22 -0600
    Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. David Staup <dstaup@charter.net> - 2015-11-15 08:51 -0600
      Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 11:11 -0500
        Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-11-15 11:57 -0500
          Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 18:10 +0100
          Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 12:40 -0500

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#279072 — Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/earths-water-old_56460271e4b08cda348867ea

"An international team of scientists has found new evidence that water may have been a 
fundamental part of Earth since its beginning some 4.5 billion years ago."


"..water has been on Earth since its formation -- and new research indicates they might be right."



These science guys find themselves always going
back to...


'In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 
Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.'




Maybe they should be investigating where those words come from.

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#279073

THE FAKER IS FORMLESS AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN KILLED BEFORE BIRTH!

FUCK OFF, FOOL!

ALL RELIGIONS COME FROM YOUR ASSHOLE, FOOL!

Saul Levy


On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 12:29:03 -0800, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/earths-water-old_56460271e4b08cda348867ea
>
>"An international team of scientists has found new evidence that water may have been a 
>fundamental part of Earth since its beginning some 4.5 billion years ago."
>
>
>"..water has been on Earth since its formation -- and new research indicates they might be right."
>
>
>
>These science guys find themselves always going
>back to...
>
>
>'In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 
>Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.'
>
>
>
>
>Maybe they should be investigating where those words come from.

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#279074

Water trapped inside diamonds gives us a peek at the Earth’s mantle
> http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/08/water-trapped-inside-diamonds-gives-us-a-peek-at-the-earths-mantle/

 > Natural diamonds are formed roughly 90 miles below the Earth’s
 > surface. There are only limited zones in the Earth’s mantle that can
 > produce diamonds due to the high temperatures and pressures required
 > for their formation. Scientists have recently determined that some
 > rapidly formed diamonds provide a snapshot of this extreme
 > environment in which they formed.
 >
 > The picture of these conditions comes from fluids trapped during
 > formation, which provides information about the material that
 > infiltrates the Earth’s mantle. These materials are thought to be the
 > cause of abrupt changes in chemical and physical properties that are
 > found at the border of the continental upper mantle and crust.
 >
 > Once they’re trapped in a diamond, these fluid inclusions are
 > shielded from later alteration, so we can analyze them for hints
 > about the conditions in the Earth’s crust and upper mantle.
 >
 > Scientists have recently studied 11 microinclusion-bearing diamonds
 > found in Canada, a large diamond-producer. Analysis of the diamonds
 > revealed fluids carrying isotope signatures of an unexpected origin:
 > Mesozoic sea water. The indications include positive Europium and
 > Strontium anomalies and a distinctive 87Sr/86Sr ratio.
 >

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#279077

On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 12:29:03 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/earths-water-old_56460271e4b08cda348867ea
> 
> "An international team of scientists has found new evidence that water may have been a 
> fundamental part of Earth since its beginning some 4.5 billion years ago."
> 
> 
> "..water has been on Earth since its formation -- and new research indicates they might be right."
> 
> 
> 
> These science guys find themselves always going
> back to...
> 
> 
> 'In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 
> Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.'
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Maybe they should be investigating where those words come from.

Starmaker Now that we know comets are not dirty snowballs its best to realize H20 came from the Earth,and lightning played a big part. TreBert

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#279083

On 15/11/2015 4:29 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/earths-water-old_56460271e4b08cda348867ea
>
>  "An international team of scientists has found new evidence that
> water may have been a fundamental part of Earth since its beginning
> some 4.5 billion years ago."
>
>
> "..water has been on Earth since its formation -- and new research
> indicates they might be right."
>
>
>
> These science guys find themselves always going back to...
>
>
> 'In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now the
> earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the
> deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.'
>
>
> Maybe they should be investigating where those words come from.
>
They were written by men with strange beliefs. Perhaps they'd been
drinking too many spirits at night without water.

-- 
Robert Bannister
Perth, Western Australia

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#279084

In article <daq99gFerigU1@mid.individual.net>,
Robert Bannister  <robban@clubtelco.com> wrote:
>On 15/11/2015 4:29 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/earths-water-old_56460271e4b08cda348867ea
>>
>>  "An international team of scientists has found new evidence that
>> water may have been a fundamental part of Earth since its beginning
>> some 4.5 billion years ago."
>>
>>
>> "..water has been on Earth since its formation -- and new research
>> indicates they might be right."
>>
>>
>>
>> These science guys find themselves always going back to...
>>
>>
>> 'In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now the
>> earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the
>> deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.'
>>
>>
>> Maybe they should be investigating where those words come from.
>>
>They were written by men with strange beliefs. Perhaps they'd been
>drinking too many spirits at night without water.

Did they have any way of making spirits?  Since they didn't have
*any* access to freeze-distillation, they would have had to
invent standard distillation with heat and a condenser, like
Martin Padway in the sixth century.  Did they?

G. K. Chesterton says somewhere that compared to the other
creation myths we find hanging about, with dragons to be slain
and giants to be dissected *before* the earth is created, Genesis
1 sounds a lot more reasonable.

To say nothing of the not-standard Hindu creation myth in which
the earth is created out of butter churned out of a huge sea of
milk, and the Finnish one in which a sky goddess, being lonely,
falls into the sea, where she drifts around still beling lonely
for centuries until she lays some eggs which become the
continents.

-- 
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com

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#279085

On 11/14/2015 9:32 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> In article <daq99gFerigU1@mid.individual.net>,
> Robert Bannister  <robban@clubtelco.com> wrote:
>> On 15/11/2015 4:29 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/earths-water-old_56460271e4b08cda348867ea
>>>
>>>   "An international team of scientists has found new evidence that
>>> water may have been a fundamental part of Earth since its beginning
>>> some 4.5 billion years ago."
>>>
>>>
>>> "..water has been on Earth since its formation -- and new research
>>> indicates they might be right."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> These science guys find themselves always going back to...
>>>
>>>
>>> 'In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now the
>>> earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the
>>> deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.'
>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe they should be investigating where those words come from.
>>>
>> They were written by men with strange beliefs. Perhaps they'd been
>> drinking too many spirits at night without water.
>
> Did they have any way of making spirits?  Since they didn't have
> *any* access to freeze-distillation, they would have had to
> invent standard distillation with heat and a condenser, like
> Martin Padway in the sixth century.  Did they?
>
> G. K. Chesterton says somewhere that compared to the other
> creation myths we find hanging about, with dragons to be slain
> and giants to be dissected *before* the earth is created, Genesis
> 1 sounds a lot more reasonable.
>
> To say nothing of the not-standard Hindu creation myth in which
> the earth is created out of butter churned out of a huge sea of
> milk, and the Finnish one in which a sky goddess, being lonely,
> falls into the sea, where she drifts around still beling lonely
> for centuries until she lays some eggs which become the
> continents.
>
I'm trying to remember which mythos it was where the Earth was created 
by a God having a bowel movement.  One of the ones from India IIRC.

-- 
Even Confucius complained about the younger generation's music.

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#279086

In article <56481d31$0$1646$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
Dimensional Traveler  <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>On 11/14/2015 9:32 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> In article <daq99gFerigU1@mid.individual.net>,
>> Robert Bannister  <robban@clubtelco.com> wrote:
>>> On 15/11/2015 4:29 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>
>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/earths-water-old_56460271e4b08cda348867ea
>>>>
>>>>   "An international team of scientists has found new evidence that
>>>> water may have been a fundamental part of Earth since its beginning
>>>> some 4.5 billion years ago."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "..water has been on Earth since its formation -- and new research
>>>> indicates they might be right."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> These science guys find themselves always going back to...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 'In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now the
>>>> earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the
>>>> deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.'
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Maybe they should be investigating where those words come from.
>>>>
>>> They were written by men with strange beliefs. Perhaps they'd been
>>> drinking too many spirits at night without water.
>>
>> Did they have any way of making spirits?  Since they didn't have
>> *any* access to freeze-distillation, they would have had to
>> invent standard distillation with heat and a condenser, like
>> Martin Padway in the sixth century.  Did they?
>>
>> G. K. Chesterton says somewhere that compared to the other
>> creation myths we find hanging about, with dragons to be slain
>> and giants to be dissected *before* the earth is created, Genesis
>> 1 sounds a lot more reasonable.
>>
>> To say nothing of the not-standard Hindu creation myth in which
>> the earth is created out of butter churned out of a huge sea of
>> milk, and the Finnish one in which a sky goddess, being lonely,
>> falls into the sea, where she drifts around still beling lonely
>> for centuries until she lays some eggs which become the
>> continents.
>>
>I'm trying to remember which mythos it was where the Earth was created 
>by a God having a bowel movement.  One of the ones from India IIRC.

That one, I managed to have missed.  I did once read one in which
one of the goddesses starts knitting, and when she's done rolls
it all up into a ball, throws it into the void, and creates the
world.

Abd L. Sprague de Camp once wrote a short poem about how the
Sumerians believed the gods created mankind while they were
drunk.

-- 
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com

--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com

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#279088

In article <nxuHtF.24o3@kithrup.com>, djheydt@kithrup.com says...
> 
> In article <56481d31$0$1646$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
> Dimensional Traveler  <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
> >On 11/14/2015 9:32 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> >> In article <daq99gFerigU1@mid.individual.net>,
> >> Robert Bannister  <robban@clubtelco.com> wrote:
> >>> On 15/11/2015 4:29 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>
> >http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/earths-water-old_56460271e4b08cda348867ea
> >>>>
> >>>>   "An international team of scientists has found new evidence that
> >>>> water may have been a fundamental part of Earth since its beginning
> >>>> some 4.5 billion years ago."
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "..water has been on Earth since its formation -- and new research
> >>>> indicates they might be right."
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> These science guys find themselves always going back to...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 'In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now the
> >>>> earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the
> >>>> deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.'
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Maybe they should be investigating where those words come from.
> >>>>
> >>> They were written by men with strange beliefs. Perhaps they'd been
> >>> drinking too many spirits at night without water.
> >>
> >> Did they have any way of making spirits?  Since they didn't have
> >> *any* access to freeze-distillation, they would have had to
> >> invent standard distillation with heat and a condenser, like
> >> Martin Padway in the sixth century.  Did they?
> >>
> >> G. K. Chesterton says somewhere that compared to the other
> >> creation myths we find hanging about, with dragons to be slain
> >> and giants to be dissected *before* the earth is created, Genesis
> >> 1 sounds a lot more reasonable.
> >>
> >> To say nothing of the not-standard Hindu creation myth in which
> >> the earth is created out of butter churned out of a huge sea of
> >> milk, and the Finnish one in which a sky goddess, being lonely,
> >> falls into the sea, where she drifts around still beling lonely
> >> for centuries until she lays some eggs which become the
> >> continents.
> >>
> >I'm trying to remember which mythos it was where the Earth was created 
> >by a God having a bowel movement.  One of the ones from India IIRC.
> 
> That one, I managed to have missed.  I did once read one in which
> one of the goddesses starts knitting, and when she's done rolls
> it all up into a ball, throws it into the void, and creates the
> world.
> 
> Abd L. Sprague de Camp once wrote a short poem about how the
> Sumerians believed the gods created mankind while they were
> drunk.

That would explain much . . .

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#279087

In article <nxuCpu.1vC5@kithrup.com>, djheydt@kithrup.com says...
> 
> In article <daq99gFerigU1@mid.individual.net>,
> Robert Bannister  <robban@clubtelco.com> wrote:
> >On 15/11/2015 4:29 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/earths-water-old_56460271e4b08cda348867ea
> >>
> >>  "An international team of scientists has found new evidence that
> >> water may have been a fundamental part of Earth since its beginning
> >> some 4.5 billion years ago."
> >>
> >>
> >> "..water has been on Earth since its formation -- and new research
> >> indicates they might be right."
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> These science guys find themselves always going back to...
> >>
> >>
> >> 'In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now the
> >> earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the
> >> deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.'
> >>
> >>
> >> Maybe they should be investigating where those words come from.
> >>
> >They were written by men with strange beliefs. Perhaps they'd been
> >drinking too many spirits at night without water.
> 
> Did they have any way of making spirits?  Since they didn't have
> *any* access to freeze-distillation, they would have had to
> invent standard distillation with heat and a condenser, like
> Martin Padway in the sixth century.  Did they?

Aristotle appears to have known of the process around 300 BC--there's no 
reason to believe that he invented it.
 
> G. K. Chesterton says somewhere that compared to the other
> creation myths we find hanging about, with dragons to be slain
> and giants to be dissected *before* the earth is created, Genesis
> 1 sounds a lot more reasonable.
> 
> To say nothing of the not-standard Hindu creation myth in which
> the earth is created out of butter churned out of a huge sea of
> milk, and the Finnish one in which a sky goddess, being lonely,
> falls into the sea, where she drifts around still beling lonely
> for centuries until she lays some eggs which become the
> continents.

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#279115

On 15/11/2015 1:32 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> In article <daq99gFerigU1@mid.individual.net>,
> Robert Bannister  <robban@clubtelco.com> wrote:
>> On 15/11/2015 4:29 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/earths-water-old_56460271e4b08cda348867ea
>>>
>>>   "An international team of scientists has found new evidence that
>>> water may have been a fundamental part of Earth since its beginning
>>> some 4.5 billion years ago."
>>>
>>>
>>> "..water has been on Earth since its formation -- and new research
>>> indicates they might be right."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> These science guys find themselves always going back to...
>>>
>>>
>>> 'In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now the
>>> earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the
>>> deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.'
>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe they should be investigating where those words come from.
>>>
>> They were written by men with strange beliefs. Perhaps they'd been
>> drinking too many spirits at night without water.
>
> Did they have any way of making spirits?  Since they didn't have
> *any* access to freeze-distillation, they would have had to
> invent standard distillation with heat and a condenser, like
> Martin Padway in the sixth century.  Did they?
>
> G. K. Chesterton says somewhere that compared to the other
> creation myths we find hanging about, with dragons to be slain
> and giants to be dissected *before* the earth is created, Genesis
> 1 sounds a lot more reasonable.

Genesis does contain two somewhat conflicting versions of the same story.
>
> To say nothing of the not-standard Hindu creation myth in which
> the earth is created out of butter churned out of a huge sea of
> milk, and the Finnish one in which a sky goddess, being lonely,
> falls into the sea, where she drifts around still beling lonely
> for centuries until she lays some eggs which become the
> continents.
>
I find the Big Bang Theory very little better. They're all OK until you 
start thinking "Who create Him?" or "What caused this to happen?" or 
"What was it like before?".

-- 
Robert Bannister
Perth, Western Australia

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#279126

On 11/16/15 12:16 AM, Robert Bannister wrote:
> I find the Big Bang Theory very little better. They're all OK until you
> start thinking "Who create Him?" or "What caused this to happen?" or
> "What was it like before?".


   The evidence supporting the BB comes from many corners of astronomy,
   general relativity and the standard model.

   Why the Universe might have come from nothing

Heisenberg's uncertainty principle
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heisenberg%27s_uncertainty_principle
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8FTr2qMutA

   Heisenberg's uncertainty principle tells us that it is
   impossible to simultaneously measure the position and
   momentum of a particle with arbitrary precision. In our
   everyday lives we virtually never come up against this
   limit, hence why it seems peculiar. In this experiment a
   laser is shone through a narrow slit onto a screen. As the
   slit is made narrower, the spot on the screen also becomes
   narrower. But at a certain point, the spot starts becoming
   wider. This is because the photons of light have been so
   localised at the slit that their horizontal momentum must
   become less well defined in order to satisfy Heisenberg's
   uncertainty principle.

Quantum vacuum fluctuation (or Quantum Fluctuation for short)
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_fluctuation

Quoting from the above Wikipedia page:

   "In quantum physics, a quantum vacuum fluctuation (or
   quantum fluctuation or vacuum fluctuation) is the temporary
   change in the amount of energy in a point in space, arising
   from Werner Heisenberg's uncertainty principle.

   "According to one formulation of the principle, energy and
   time can be related by the relation

       ∆E · ∆t ≥ h/4π

   "That means that conservation of energy can appear to be
   violated, but only for small times. This allows the creation
   of particle-antiparticle pairs of virtual particles. The
   effects of these particles are measurable, for example, in
   the effective charge of the electron, different from its
   "naked" charge.

   "In the modern view, energy is always conserved, but the
   eigenstates of the Hamiltonian (energy observable) are not
   the same as (i.e., the Hamiltonian doesn't commute with) the
   particle number operators.

   "Quantum fluctuations may have been very important in the
   origin of the structure of the universe: according to the
   model of inflation the ones that existed when inflation
   began were amplified and formed the seed of all current
   observed structure."

Quoting from A USENET Posting by Steve Carlip (UC Davis):

   "CMB fluctuations give evidence for (though not proof of)
   inflation.

   "So far, I haven't said anything about where the initial
   density variations of the pre-recombination plasma came
   from. There are many possibilities. We know, at least, that
   they must be there -- even if we try to start with a
   perfectly smooth, unvarying plasma, the Heisenberg
   uncertainty principle tells us that there must be a minimum
   level of quantum fluctuations.

        ∆E · ∆t ≥  h/4π

   "Inflationary" models propose that the very early Universe
   -- before the time of primordial nucleosynthesis --
   underwent a very rapid expansion. Such an expansion would
   smooth out/dilute any earlier inhomogeneities, leaving only
   the quantum fluctuations, which would be "stretched" in size
   by the rapidly expanding space.

   "Such models predict a special pattern of fluctuations. In
   particular, although any particular fluctuation is random,
   the average number at any particular scale is predictable.
   This pattern on initial variations, in turn, should show up
   in the details of the CMB variations. So far, observations
   match the predictions of inflation very well. Most people in
   the field don't consider this conclusive -- one can imagine
   other ways of getting a similar pattern of initial
   perturbations -- but it is suggestive."



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#279127

Użytkownik "Sam Wormley"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
dyskusyjnych:C5KdnRQNgY94ndfLnZ2dnUU7-VednZ2d@giganews.com...

|   The evidence supporting the BB comes from many corners of astronomy,
|   general relativity and the standard model.

Of course! In many corners morons can wave their arms and
shout "evidence!!!!!evidence!!!!"

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#279128

On 11/16/15 10:56 AM, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> Użytkownik "Sam Wormley"  napisał w wiadomości grup
> dyskusyjnych:C5KdnRQNgY94ndfLnZ2dnUU7-VednZ2d@giganews.com...
>
> |   The evidence supporting the BB comes from many corners of astronomy,
> |   general relativity and the standard model.
>
> Of course! In many corners morons can wave their arms and
> shout "evidence!!!!!evidence!!!!"
>


   No Center
     http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/nocenter.html
     http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/infpoint.html

   Also see Ned Wright's Cosmology Tutorial
     http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmolog.htm
     http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmology_faq.html
     http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/CosmoCalc.html

   WMAP: Foundations of the Big Bang theory
     http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni.html

   WMAP: Tests of Big Bang Cosmology
     http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni/uni_101bbtest.html

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#279129

Użytkownik "Sam Wormley"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
dyskusyjnych:C5KdnQ0NgY9kkdfLnZ2dnUU7-VednZ2d@giganews.com...

On 11/16/15 10:56 AM, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> Użytkownik "Sam Wormley"  napisał w wiadomości grup
> dyskusyjnych:C5KdnRQNgY94ndfLnZ2dnUU7-VednZ2d@giganews.com...
>
> |   The evidence supporting the BB comes from many corners of astronomy,
> |   general relativity and the standard model.
>
> Of course! In many corners morons can wave their arms and
> shout "evidence!!!!!evidence!!!!"
>


|   No Center
[etc,etc]

Do You know, how much evidence phlogiston theory
collected during 100 years it was believed?

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#279130

On 11/16/15 11:28 AM, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
>
>
> Użytkownik "Sam Wormley"  napisał w wiadomości grup
> dyskusyjnych:C5KdnQ0NgY9kkdfLnZ2dnUU7-VednZ2d@giganews.com...
>
> On 11/16/15 10:56 AM, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
>> Użytkownik "Sam Wormley"  napisał w wiadomości grup
>> dyskusyjnych:C5KdnRQNgY94ndfLnZ2dnUU7-VednZ2d@giganews.com...
>>
>> |   The evidence supporting the BB comes from many corners of astronomy,
>> |   general relativity and the standard model.
>>
>> Of course! In many corners morons can wave their arms and
>> shout "evidence!!!!!evidence!!!!"
>>
>
>
> |   No Center
> [etc,etc]
>
> Do You know, how much evidence phlogiston theory
> collected during 100 years it was believed?
>

   Did the phlogiston theory turn out to be correct?

   Why not?


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#279132

Użytkownik "Sam Wormley"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
dyskusyjnych:ztadnYXBU_rthNfLnZ2dnUU7-K2dnZ2d@giganews.com...

On 11/16/15 11:28 AM, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
>
>
> Użytkownik "Sam Wormley"  napisał w wiadomości grup
> dyskusyjnych:C5KdnQ0NgY9kkdfLnZ2dnUU7-VednZ2d@giganews.com...
>
> On 11/16/15 10:56 AM, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
>> Użytkownik "Sam Wormley"  napisał w wiadomości grup
>> dyskusyjnych:C5KdnRQNgY94ndfLnZ2dnUU7-VednZ2d@giganews.com...
>>
>> |   The evidence supporting the BB comes from many corners of astronomy,
>> |   general relativity and the standard model.
>>
>> Of course! In many corners morons can wave their arms and
>> shout "evidence!!!!!evidence!!!!"
>>
>
>
> |   No Center
> [etc,etc]
>
> Do You know, how much evidence phlogiston theory
> collected during 100 years it was believed?
>

|   Did the phlogiston theory turn out to be correct?
|   Why not?

My question was first.

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#279188

On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 9:45:02 PM UTC-8, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> In article <daq99gFerigU1@mid.individual.net>,
> Robert Bannister  <robban@clubtelco.com> wrote:
> >On 15/11/2015 4:29 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/earths-water-old_56460271e4b08cda348867ea
> >>
> >>  "An international team of scientists has found new evidence that
> >> water may have been a fundamental part of Earth since its beginning
> >> some 4.5 billion years ago."
> >>
> >>
> >> "..water has been on Earth since its formation -- and new research
> >> indicates they might be right."
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> These science guys find themselves always going back to...
> >>
> >>
> >> 'In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now the
> >> earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the
> >> deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.'
> >>
> >>
> >> Maybe they should be investigating where those words come from.
> >>
> >They were written by men with strange beliefs. Perhaps they'd been
> >drinking too many spirits at night without water.
> 
> Did they have any way of making spirits?  Since they didn't have
> *any* access to freeze-distillation, they would have had to
> invent standard distillation with heat and a condenser, like
> Martin Padway in the sixth century.  Did they?
> 
> G. K. Chesterton says somewhere that compared to the other
> creation myths we find hanging about, with dragons to be slain
> and giants to be dissected *before* the earth is created, Genesis
> 1 sounds a lot more reasonable.
> 
> To say nothing of the not-standard Hindu creation myth in which
> the earth is created out of butter churned out of a huge sea of
> milk, and the Finnish one in which a sky goddess, being lonely,
> falls into the sea, where she drifts around still beling lonely
> for centuries until she lays some eggs which become the
> continents.
> 
> -- 
> Dorothy J. Heydt
> Vallejo, California
> djheydt at gmail dot com

Make wine from falling grapes.Birds are big on wine.Apple cider I use to make 100 proof in a barrel.Sugar and aging helps a lot. A little rum in Bud is good to sip on a cold day like today.Wine and vodka makes a nice splash. TreBert  

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#279209

AND STILL AN ALCOHOLIC!

Saul Levy


On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 16:11:53 -0800 (PST), "G=EMC^2TreBert"
<herbertglazier0@gmail.com> wrote:

>Make wine from falling grapes.Birds are big on wine.Apple cider I 
use to make 100 proof in a barrel.Sugar and aging helps a lot. A
little rum in Bud is good to sip on a cold day like today.Wine and
vodka makes a nice splash. TreBert

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#279671

On Tuesday, November 17, 2015 at 4:11:54 PM UTC-8, G=EMC^2TreBert wrote:
> On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 9:45:02 PM UTC-8, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> > In article <daq99gFerigU1@mid.individual.net>,
> > Robert Bannister  <robban@clubtelco.com> wrote:
> > >On 15/11/2015 4:29 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/earths-water-old_56460271e4b08cda348867ea
> > >>
> > >>  "An international team of scientists has found new evidence that
> > >> water may have been a fundamental part of Earth since its beginning
> > >> some 4.5 billion years ago."
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "..water has been on Earth since its formation -- and new research
> > >> indicates they might be right."
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> These science guys find themselves always going back to...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 'In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now the
> > >> earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the
> > >> deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.'
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Maybe they should be investigating where those words come from.
> > >>
> > >They were written by men with strange beliefs. Perhaps they'd been
> > >drinking too many spirits at night without water.
> > 
> > Did they have any way of making spirits?  Since they didn't have
> > *any* access to freeze-distillation, they would have had to
> > invent standard distillation with heat and a condenser, like
> > Martin Padway in the sixth century.  Did they?
> > 
> > G. K. Chesterton says somewhere that compared to the other
> > creation myths we find hanging about, with dragons to be slain
> > and giants to be dissected *before* the earth is created, Genesis
> > 1 sounds a lot more reasonable.
> > 
> > To say nothing of the not-standard Hindu creation myth in which
> > the earth is created out of butter churned out of a huge sea of
> > milk, and the Finnish one in which a sky goddess, being lonely,
> > falls into the sea, where she drifts around still beling lonely
> > for centuries until she lays some eggs which become the
> > continents.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Dorothy J. Heydt
> > Vallejo, California
> > djheydt at gmail dot com
> 
> Make wine from falling grapes.Birds are big on wine.Apple cider I use to make 100 proof in a barrel.Sugar and aging helps a lot. A little rum in Bud is good to sip on a cold day like today.Wine and vodka makes a nice splash. TreBert

When it is known how Earth became so wet we will know how scarce plants like Earth are.Possibly one in 500,000,000.TreBert

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