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Two Earths

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2015-07-11 11:57 -0700
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  Two Earths The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-11 11:57 -0700
    Re: Two Earths Simoen <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-07-11 16:01 -0500
      Re: Two Earths Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net> - 2015-07-12 15:25 -0700
    Re: Two Earths Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-07-11 18:32 -0500
      Re: Two Earths Simoen <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-07-11 19:55 -0500
        Re: Two Earths benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-07-11 21:46 -0400
      Re: Two Earths benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-07-11 22:02 -0400
        Re: Two Earths HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-12 04:59 -0400
        Re: Two Earths "a425couple" <a425couple@hotmail.com> - 2015-07-12 11:14 -0700
          Re: Two Earths "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-07-12 22:24 -0400
          Re: Two Earths HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 05:50 -0400
    Re: Two Earths Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net> - 2015-07-12 15:28 -0700
    Re: Two Earths The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-12 15:46 -0700
      Re: Two Earths Simoen <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-07-12 21:34 -0500
        Re: Two Earths Mike Duffy <see_website@signature.block> - 2015-07-12 22:49 -0400
          Re: Two Earths benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 01:00 -0400
            Re: Two Earths HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 05:52 -0400
              Re: Two Earths benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 13:51 -0400
                Re: Two Earths HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 14:41 -0400
                  Re: Two Earths Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-13 17:19 -0700
                  Re: Two Earths benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 00:35 -0400
                    Re: Two Earths HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 06:22 -0400
          Re: Two Earths Simoen <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-07-13 00:24 -0500
            Re: Two Earths Mike Duffy <see_website@signature.block> - 2015-07-13 11:07 -0400
        Re: Two Earths The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-12 21:51 -0700
      Re: Two Earths Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net> - 2015-07-14 10:17 -0700
    Re: Two Earths "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-07-15 09:31 -0500
      Re: Two Earths Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net> - 2015-07-15 11:39 -0700

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#270840 — Two Earths

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-07-11 11:57 -0700
SubjectTwo Earths
Message-ID<55A1670D.1FFA@ix.netcom.com>
There is a reason why 
there is only one Earth
in our solar system..
if there were two
we would be
too occupied
with killing them all.

Or they would be
too occupied
with eating us all..
alive.

Or...

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#270845

FromSimoen <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2015-07-11 16:01 -0500
Message-ID<mns09c$ltq$3@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#270840
On 7/11/2015 1:57 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> There is a reason why
> there is only one Earth
> in our solar system..
> if there were two
> we would be
> too occupied
> with killing them all.
>
> Or they would be
> too occupied
> with eating us all..
> alive.
>
> Or...
>

there is another identical Earth orbiting exactly opposite the sun, so 
we can not see it.

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#270889

FromSaul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net>
Date2015-07-12 15:25 -0700
Message-ID<69q5qa54jr8tf6eesjn8171pr5me4e8sgf@4ax.com>
In reply to#270845
PURE BULLSHIT!

IT WOULD HAVE BEEN >>SEEN<< OVER 100 YEARS AGO!

YOU MORONS KNOW NOTHING!

Saul Levy


On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 16:01:29 -0500, Simoen <invalid@invalid.com>
wrote:

>On 7/11/2015 1:57 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> There is a reason why
>> there is only one Earth
>> in our solar system..
>> if there were two
>> we would be
>> too occupied
>> with killing them all.
>>
>> Or they would be
>> too occupied
>> with eating us all..
>> alive.
>>
>> Or...
>>
>
>there is another identical Earth orbiting exactly opposite the sun, so 
>we can not see it.

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#270848

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-07-11 18:32 -0500
Message-ID<nOadneWfbIs4OjzInZ2dnUU7-Y0AAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#270840
On 7/11/15 1:57 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> There is a reason why there is only one Earth in our solar system..

   Perhaps a billion years ago there where two habitable planets
   Earth and Venus.

   And 3.5 billion years ago there might have been three - Add Mars.


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#270854

FromSimoen <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2015-07-11 19:55 -0500
Message-ID<mnsdve$gi9$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#270848
On 7/11/2015 6:32 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 7/11/15 1:57 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> There is a reason why there is only one Earth in our solar system..
>
>    *Perhaps* a billion years ago there where two habitable planets
>    Earth and Venus.
>
>    And 3.5 billion years ago there *might have been* three - Add Mars.
>



*Weasel Words*

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#270857

Frombenj <nobody@gmail.com>
Date2015-07-11 21:46 -0400
Message-ID<PFjox.52194$Xi4.27783@fx09.iad>
In reply to#270854
On 07/11/2015 08:55 PM, Simoen wrote:
> On 7/11/2015 6:32 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> On 7/11/15 1:57 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> There is a reason why there is only one Earth in our solar system..
>>
>>    *Perhaps* a billion years ago there where two habitable planets
>>    Earth and Venus.
>>
>>    And 3.5 billion years ago there *might have been* three - Add Mars.
>>
>
>
>
> *Weasel Words*
>
jimp, In Wormley's world "could" or "might" or "perhaps" means the same 
thing as "is".

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#270858

Frombenj <nobody@gmail.com>
Date2015-07-11 22:02 -0400
Message-ID<mVjox.90017$0i5.1367@fx26.iad>
In reply to#270848
On 07/11/2015 07:32 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 7/11/15 1:57 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> There is a reason why there is only one Earth in our solar system..
>
>    Perhaps a billion years ago there where two habitable planets
>    Earth and Venus.
>
>    And 3.5 billion years ago there might have been three - Add Mars.

Nonsense talk, Sam. There have always been two earths. There is the 
planet we are familiar with and the OTHER earth that is directly 
opposite hidden by the sun!

If you want to know more about this theory, just ask HVAC what I believe 
and he'll make something up for you. One thing is certain. Velikovsky 
showed that Venus was originally a comet and not a planet which is why 
there is no water! It could never have been another hidden earth. Harlow 
says it's what I believe. You can believe it too.

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#270868

FromHVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>
Date2015-07-12 04:59 -0400
Message-ID<mnta63$vos$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#270858
On 7/11/2015 10:02 PM, benj wrote:
>
> If you want to know more about this theory, just ask HVAC what I believe
> and he'll make something up for you. One thing is certain. Velikovsky
> showed that Venus was originally a comet and not a planet which is why
> there is no water! It could never have been another hidden earth. Harlow
> says it's what I believe. You can believe it too.


Just a few short weeks ago you claimed that Velikofsky was given short 
shrift by the science community in much the same manner that remote 
viewing, ESP and ghosts have been given short shrift by ME.

As if this was a bad thing....

BJ, never be ashamed of your kook status. Wave your kook flag proudly!


-- 
Cut off one head, two more shall take its place.
HAIL HYDRA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224

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#270880

From"a425couple" <a425couple@hotmail.com>
Date2015-07-12 11:14 -0700
Message-ID<mnuaqq0ea0@news3.newsguy.com>
In reply to#270858
"benj" <nobody@gmail.com> wrote in message...
> On 07/11/2015 07:32 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> On 7/11/15 1:57 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> There is a reason why there is only one Earth in our solar system..
>>
>>    Perhaps a billion years ago there where two habitable planets
>>    Earth and Venus.
>>    And 3.5 billion years ago there might have been three - Add Mars.
>
> Nonsense talk, Sam. There have always been two earths. There is the planet 
> we are familiar with and the OTHER earth that is directly opposite hidden 
> by the sun!

Hmmm, as clearly shown to us in the film:
"Doppelgänger is a 1969 British science-fiction film directed by
Robert Parrish and starring Roy Thinnes, Ian Hendry, Lynn Loring
and Patrick Wymark. Outside Europe, it is known as Journey to the
Far Side of the Sun, which is now the more popular title.[1][2] In the
film, a joint European-NASA mission to investigate a planet in a position
parallel to Earth, behind the Sun, ends in disaster with the death of one
of the astronauts (Hendry). His colleague (Thinnes) discovers that the
planet is a mirror image of Earth."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doppelg%C3%A4nger_%281969_film%29 

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#270893

From"Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid>
Date2015-07-12 22:24 -0400
Message-ID<mnv7e1$br2$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#270880

a425couple wrote:
> "benj" <nobody@gmail.com> wrote in message...
>> On 07/11/2015 07:32 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>>> On 7/11/15 1:57 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> There is a reason why there is only one Earth in our solar system..
>>>
>>>    Perhaps a billion years ago there where two habitable planets
>>>    Earth and Venus.
>>>    And 3.5 billion years ago there might have been three - Add Mars.
>>
>> Nonsense talk, Sam. There have always been two earths. There is the
>> planet we are familiar with and the OTHER earth that is directly
>> opposite hidden by the sun!
>
> Hmmm, as clearly shown to us in the film:
> "Doppelgänger is a 1969 British science-fiction film directed by
> Robert Parrish and starring Roy Thinnes, Ian Hendry, Lynn Loring
> and Patrick Wymark. Outside Europe, it is known as Journey to the
> Far Side of the Sun, which is now the more popular title.[1][2] In the
> film, a joint European-NASA mission to investigate a planet in a
> position parallel to Earth, behind the Sun, ends in disaster with the
> death of one of the astronauts (Hendry). His colleague (Thinnes)
> discovers that the planet is a mirror image of Earth."
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doppelg%C3%A4nger_%281969_film%29




That's strange.
The version of the movie that I always had, the surviving Astronaut is named 
"Glen Ross".
....I always thought that was a reference to John Glen.

Not sure the name of the actress who played his wife, but WOW was she hot. 

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#270901

FromHVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>
Date2015-07-13 05:50 -0400
Message-ID<mo01gn$hqf$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#270880
On 7/12/2015 2:14 PM, a425couple wrote:
>
>> Nonsense talk, Sam. There have always been two earths. There is the
>> planet we are familiar with and the OTHER earth that is directly
>> opposite hidden by the sun!
>
> Hmmm, as clearly shown to us in the film:
> "Doppelgänger is a 1969 British science-fiction film directed by
> Robert Parrish and starring Roy Thinnes, Ian Hendry, Lynn Loring
> and Patrick Wymark. Outside Europe, it is known as Journey to the
> Far Side of the Sun, which is now the more popular title.[1][2] In the
> film, a joint European-NASA mission to investigate a planet in a position
> parallel to Earth, behind the Sun, ends in disaster with the death of one
> of the astronauts (Hendry). His colleague (Thinnes) discovers that the
> planet is a mirror image of Earth."
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doppelg%C3%A4nger_%281969_film%29


Roy Thinnes, if memory serves, was the star of the tv show The Invaders.


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Cut off one head, two more shall take its place.
HAIL HYDRA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224

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#270890

FromSaul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net>
Date2015-07-12 15:28 -0700
Message-ID<hfq5qap5jni3irgdjrgale30kcsmj82no5@4ax.com>
In reply to#270840
YOU FORGOT ONE, SHITHEAD:  YOU ARE INSANE!

Saul Levy


On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 11:57:17 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>There is a reason why 
>there is only one Earth
>in our solar system..
>if there were two
>we would be
>too occupied
>with killing them all.
>
>Or they would be
>too occupied
>with eating us all..
>alive.
>
>Or...

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#270892

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-07-12 15:46 -0700
Message-ID<55A2EE45.3B4D@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#270840
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> There is a reason why
> there is only one Earth
> in our solar system..
> if there were two
> we would be
> too occupied
> with killing them all.
> 
> Or they would be
> too occupied
> with eating us all..
> alive.
> 
> Or...


If I was God, I could't think of a reason Why to have a second Earth.

There is simply no reason to.


Not only is there no good reason to have a second earth in our solar system...
but not in any other solar system...or anywhere else in the universe.



There is simply no good reason.


I cannot think of any...and I know better than the rest of yous.




The Starmaker

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#270894

FromSimoen <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2015-07-12 21:34 -0500
Message-ID<mnv841$tnk$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#270892
On 7/12/2015 5:46 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> There is a reason why
>> there is only one Earth
>> in our solar system..
>> if there were two
>> we would be
>> too occupied
>> with killing them all.
>>
>> Or they would be
>> too occupied
>> with eating us all..
>> alive.
>>
>> Or...
>
>
> If I was God, I could't think of a reason Why to have a second Earth.
>
> There is simply no reason to.
>
>
> Not only is there no good reason to have a second earth in our solar system...
> but not in any other solar system...or anywhere else in the universe.
>
>
>
> There is simply no good reason.
>
>
> I cannot think of any...and I know better than the rest of yous.
>
>
> The Starmaker
>

well, you admit you are not a god, the real question is why did god put 
an exact duplicate Earth, exactly on the opposite side of the sun from us?

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#270895

FromMike Duffy <see_website@signature.block>
Date2015-07-12 22:49 -0400
Message-ID<m2hmbnvr3tnu.dlg@mduffy.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#270894
On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 21:34:40 -0500, Simoen wrote:

> well, you admit you are not a god, the real question is why did god put 
> an exact duplicate Earth, exactly on the opposite side of the sun from us?

It cannot be an exact duplicate of this Earth, because this one follows
well-established gravitational attraction laws regarding its orbital
positioning. 

Any planet exactly opposite our position would violate known gravitational
laws. (i.e. Kepler's etc.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kepler%27s_laws_of_planetary_motion

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#270898

Frombenj <nobody@gmail.com>
Date2015-07-13 01:00 -0400
Message-ID<fCHox.245232$Pb6.206033@fx04.iad>
In reply to#270895
On 07/12/2015 10:49 PM, Mike Duffy wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 21:34:40 -0500, Simoen wrote:
>
>> well, you admit you are not a god, the real question is why did god put
>> an exact duplicate Earth, exactly on the opposite side of the sun from us?
>
> It cannot be an exact duplicate of this Earth, because this one follows
> well-established gravitational attraction laws regarding its orbital
> positioning.
>
> Any planet exactly opposite our position would violate known gravitational
> laws. (i.e. Kepler's etc.)
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kepler%27s_laws_of_planetary_motion

HVAC believes that there is a duplicate Earth on the other side of the 
sun. Most writers believe that. It's simply plausible.

Anyway Kepler's Laws are no proof because they've never been proven 
valid for the solar system. Cripes.Nobody has ever been able to show 
even that the solar system is stable, using Kepler's laws!

In science if you believe something is true, that is sufficient proof 
that it IS true!


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#270902

FromHVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>
Date2015-07-13 05:52 -0400
Message-ID<mo01kh$hqf$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#270898
On 7/13/2015 1:00 AM, benj wrote:
>
> HVAC believes that there is a duplicate Earth on the other side of the
> sun. Most writers believe that. It's simply plausible.


Ya, but I call it Nemesis. Just an FYI


-- 
Cut off one head, two more shall take its place.
HAIL HYDRA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224

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#270909

Frombenj <none@gmail.com>
Date2015-07-13 13:51 -0400
Message-ID<%USox.138576$DJ3.61337@fx05.iad>
In reply to#270902
On 07/13/2015 05:52 AM, HVAC wrote:
> On 7/13/2015 1:00 AM, benj wrote:
>>
>> HVAC believes that there is a duplicate Earth on the other side of the
>> sun. Most writers believe that. It's simply plausible.
>
>
> Ya, but I call it Nemesis. Just an FYI
>
>
Hey, thanks Hardblow. I was trying to remember what people had called it 
and couldn't. Nemesis! Yes! Excellent. I'll go with that one.

Bad news is that HVAC who believes in astrology now has to recalculate 
all his planetary charts to include the "influence" of Nemesis!

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#270910

FromHVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>
Date2015-07-13 14:41 -0400
Message-ID<mo10mk$91i$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#270909
On 7/13/2015 1:51 PM, benj wrote:
> On 07/13/2015 05:52 AM, HVAC wrote:
>> On 7/13/2015 1:00 AM, benj wrote:
>>>
>>> HVAC believes that there is a duplicate Earth on the other side of the
>>> sun. Most writers believe that. It's simply plausible.
>>
>>
>> Ya, but I call it Nemesis. Just an FYI
>>
>>
> Hey, thanks Hardblow. I was trying to remember what people had called it
> and couldn't. Nemesis! Yes! Excellent. I'll go with that one.
>
> Bad news is that HVAC who believes in astrology now has to recalculate
> all his planetary charts to include the "influence" of Nemesis!


I was just passed a note from my intern.
It says the correct name is 'Nibiru'

I have already accepted my own apology, so no worries.



-- 
Cut off one head, two more shall take its place.
HAIL HYDRA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224

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#270922

FromHägar <hsahm@yahoo.com>
Date2015-07-13 17:19 -0700
Message-ID<LqadnUiTBfwfyDnInZ2dnUVZ5gidnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#270910

"HVAC"  wrote in message news:mo10mk$91i$2@dont-email.me...

On 7/13/2015 1:51 PM, benj wrote:
> On 07/13/2015 05:52 AM, HVAC wrote:
>> On 7/13/2015 1:00 AM, benj wrote:
>>>
>>> HVAC believes that there is a duplicate Earth on the other side of 
>>> the
>>> sun. Most writers believe that. It's simply plausible.
>>
>>
>> Ya, but I call it Nemesis. Just an FYI
>>
>>
> Hey, thanks Hardblow. I was trying to remember what people had 
> called it
> and couldn't. Nemesis! Yes! Excellent. I'll go with that one.
>
> Bad news is that HVAC who believes in astrology now has to 
> recalculate
> all his planetary charts to include the "influence" of Nemesis!


I was just passed a note from my intern.
It says the correct name is 'Nibiru'

I have already accepted my own apology, so no worries.



*** You've become BJ's slap-around bitch, didn't cha, HardBlowe ...
       the little twerp plays you like a fine Strad ... and all you 
can
       muster are crass burps ...

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