Re: Shutdown vs. Restart

From	Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.mobile.android
Subject	Re: Shutdown vs. Restart
Date	2025-03-26 15:25 +0000
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Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote:
> Steve Hayes, 2025-03-24 10:04:
> 
> > On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 12:16:17 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
> > wrote:
> > 
> >> Learned recently that in later versions of windows, Shutdown does not
> >> completely shut down windows but Restart does. 
> >>
> >> Is that true in Android too? 
> > 
> > In Windows, I'm pretty sure it is the other way round. 
> > 
> > Restart doesn't completely shut down Windows, but shutdown does. 
> 
> No, it's exactly the opposite - because "shutdown" is what people do all
> the time when they want turn off their computers. For this very reason
> Windows does only hibernate by default - which means it stores the
> current RAM content on the SSD so the last state including all open
> applications will be restored when turning on the computer the next time.

  Sorry, but that's not correct. If you do a 'Shut down' the system will
only save the OS to 'disk', not the open applications. And it will only
save to 'disk' if Fast Startup is enabled (which is the default).

  N.B. If your comment was correct, there would be no 'Hibernate' choice
in the 'Power' menu.

> However when a user does *restart* Windows, then he does that to make
> sure, the system is in a defined state - and for this reasons Windows
> will *not* hibernate and restore the current state when it is restarted.

  It's actually better to do a Shut down (with Fast Restart disabled),
wait some time and then do a bootup, to get the software and hardware in
a defined 'cold' bootup state. Some electronics, mainly capacitors but
also some other electronics, can take some time to get back in their
'cold' state. Most of the time a Restart will be enough, but for strange
problems it's wise to try Shut down, wait, power on/bootup.

  For an authorative reference:

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Shutdown vs. Restart micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-22 12:16 -0400
  Re: Shutdown vs. Restart knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-22 13:26 -0400
  Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-22 13:41 -0400
    Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-22 19:07 +0000
      Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-03-23 12:44 +0100
      Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-03-23 12:13 +0000
        Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-23 17:52 +0000
    Re: Shutdown vs. Restart "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-23 15:03 +0100
  Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-03-23 12:34 +0100
  Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-03-24 11:04 +0200
    Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-03-24 11:17 +0000
      Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-03-25 08:53 +0200
        Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-03-25 17:11 +0000
        Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-03-26 14:16 +0100
        Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-26 10:58 -0400
    Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-03-26 14:14 +0100
      Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-26 15:25 +0000
        Re: Shutdown vs. Restart AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-03-26 17:46 +0000
          Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-26 18:34 +0000
            Re: Shutdown vs. Restart AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-03-26 19:38 +0000
              Re: Shutdown vs. Restart micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-03 03:36 -0400
                Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-03 09:49 +0100
                Re: Shutdown vs. Restart micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-03 06:04 -0400
                Re: Shutdown vs. Restart AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-04-03 14:45 +0000
                Re: Shutdown vs. Restart micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-04 12:52 -0400
                Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-04 17:56 +0100
          Re: Shutdown vs. Restart micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-03 03:42 -0400
            Re: Shutdown vs. Restart AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-04-03 14:50 +0000
        Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-03-27 10:39 +0100
          Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-27 11:33 +0000
          Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-27 08:32 -0400
            Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-27 16:39 +0000
      Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-03-27 08:41 +0200
        Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-03-27 10:42 +0100
          Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-03-27 10:18 +0000
            Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-27 11:39 +0000
              Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-03-27 12:23 +0000
                Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-27 15:52 +0000
        Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-03-27 19:06 +0000
          Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-03-27 23:47 +0200
            Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-03-28 02:32 +0000
          Re: Shutdown vs. Restart micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-03 03:47 -0400
  Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-24 16:11 +0100
    Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-03-26 14:19 +0100
      Re: Shutdown vs. Restart micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-03 03:50 -0400

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