Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays

From	Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org>
Newsgroups	alt.comp.os.windows-11, comp.editors, comp.text.pdf, alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject	Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays
Date	2025-03-05 20:48 +1100
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On 5/03/2025 5:39 pm, Paul wrote:
> On Tue, 3/4/2025 11:28 PM, Don_from_AZ wrote:
>> Peter Flynn <peter@silmaril.ie> writes:
>> 
>>> On 04/03/2025 15:23, Tim Slattery wrote: [snip]
>>>> A box of Hollerith (or IBM) cards held 2,000 cards. Each
>>>> FORTRAN statement would go on a separate card, so 2,000 FORTRAN
>>>> statements is right. And if you dropped your box and spilled
>>>> your cards, good luck getting them back in the correct order!
>>> 
>>> In my college, the computing centre had a card sorter, which was
>>> huge and stood on cast-iron lion's feet which someone had painted
>>> gold :-) But of course it only worked if your program statements
>>> or data lines (cards) were numbered. You only drop a box of cards
>>> once.
>>> 
>>> (You may hear the voice of experience there :-)
>>> 
>>> Peter
>>> 
>> I worked for Honeywell at a WWMMCCS site (World-Wide Military
>> Command and Control System) at the Washington Navy Yard as a tech
>> support guy. This was about 1973. I created new boot decks for the
>> Honeywell 635 as needed, with new patch cards or new
>> configurations. I was carrying a tray of punched cards to the
>> computer room, one hand on each end of the card tray. I tried to
>> hook the door handle with my little finger to pull it open and lost
>> my grip on the tray; cards all over the floor! Embarrasing to say
>> the least, and I didn't even try to put them back in order, just
>> punched out a new deck.
>> 
> 
> You could put numbers in column 72.
> 
> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/58/FortranCardPROJ039.agr.jpg/960px-FortranCardPROJ039.agr.jpg
>
>  You generally also need some spacing between card numbers, like use
> 10,20,30 then if you added a card it could be 25, then a card between
> 20 and 25, could be card 23. You needed a means to support program
> edits.

That was the reason stated when I started BASIC Programming (1985'ish 
.... O./K., so I was a late comer!!) "Number the Lines 10, 20, 30, etc, 
so, if you need to add a bit extra, there were all those other line 
numbers to use!!"

-- 
Daniel70

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What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-02-28 20:09 +0000
  Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-28 21:00 +0000
    Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-02-28 23:56 +0000
      Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-01 00:21 +0000
      Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-01 02:53 +0000
        Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-01 06:24 +0000
          Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-01 06:49 +0000
            Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-01 07:21 +0000
              Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-01 20:23 +0000
                Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-02 03:18 +0000
                Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Peter Flynn <peter@silmaril.ie> - 2025-03-03 21:38 +0000
                Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-03 23:35 +0000
                Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-04 02:35 +0000
                Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-04 03:13 +0000
                Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-04 03:31 +0000
                Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-04 20:18 +0100
                Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Peter Flynn <peter@silmaril.ie> - 2025-03-04 22:32 +0000
                Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-04 23:32 +0000
                Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Peter Flynn <peter@silmaril.ie> - 2025-03-05 22:08 +0000
          Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-01 20:17 +0000
            Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-02 03:02 +0000
          Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-02 22:03 +0000
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                Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-03 17:01 +0000
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                Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-04 03:52 +0000
                Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-04 04:41 +0000
                Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Tim Slattery <TimSlattery@utexas.edu> - 2025-03-04 10:23 -0500
                Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Peter Flynn <peter@silmaril.ie> - 2025-03-04 22:39 +0000
                Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2025-03-04 21:28 -0700
                Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-05 01:39 -0500
                Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-03-05 20:48 +1100
                Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-06 02:18 +0000
                Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-03-06 18:12 +1100
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                Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-08 01:04 +0000
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