Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays

From	Peter Flynn <peter@silmaril.ie>
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Subject	Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays
Date	2025-03-05 22:39 +0000
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On 04/03/2025 23:24, Marion wrote:
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> Printing a booklet requires arranging both sides of the pages in a
> specific order so that when the 8.5x11-inch printed sheets are
> folded in half, the pages appear in the correct sequence as if they
> were in a booklet.

This is called "imposition". Printing a book means arranging the pages 
(usually) 16 (possibly 32) per side of a very large sheet (and therefore 
16 the other side) making a "signature", laid out so that when folded 
and folded and folded etc and trimmed, page 1 has page 2 on the back of 
it; then repeat for the next 32 (or 64) pages, and repeat, etc until all 
X00 pages are accounted for. Printed off a reel of paper (confusingly 
called a web) nowadays, and slit to sheets before folding. Then stacked 
together, the spines abraded and glued (or sewn with thread for fancy 
books), then draw on the cover (printed separately on board), glue it, 
and give it a final trim.

> However, back to the printing of booklets, that's one thing I had trouble
> finding free (as in no cost) software as printing a booklet from folded
> 8.5x11-inch paper is more complex than standard printing, especially when
> dealing with double-sided printing and odd numbers of pages & title pages.

And, domestically, having it all set up and running, and then the 
cheapass paper-handling mechanism in the printer feeds two sheets 
instead of one, and messes it all up.

> I'm aware of "pdfbook", but, alas, that requires Python (aurgh!, again!) 
> on Windows, but luckily, pdfbook should be easier to use on Linux & Mac.

I don't think anyone doing this seriously would consider Windows at all.
There is a massive collection of free text-manipulation tools known 
collectively as "the Unix text tools" which work on Linux (including Mac 
OSX) but which cause endless compilation trouble on Windows.

> Digging a bit into LaTeX (which I've never used myself), MiKTeX & TeX Live
> seem to be free (no cost) Windows, Linux & Mac "modern" TeX distributions.

Correct. The canonical location is the TeX Users Group site (tug.org)

> Also TeXstudio or TeXworks appear to be free (no cost) LaTeX editors.

Both are excellent but there are lots of others, including (of course) 
Emacs. https://latex.silmaril.ie/formattinginformation/editdis.html

> Since the expensive cost of free (no cost) software is in the trials and
> tribulations to find the best ones that work, does anyone have experience
> with any of the distributions above for creating booklet style PDFs?

My typesetting business has used LaTeX and the Unix text tools for the 
last 30 years (mainly for books) without significant problems¹. There 
are some technical aspects, such as ensuring that the L–R adjustment of 
the text area on one page will correctly occupy the exact same space on 
the back of the next page when printed and bound, but this really only 
affects very large signatures where the thickness of the paper has to be 
taken into account when folder 3–4 times; this is not really relevant 
for booklets. Otherwise it's just a matter of using the right imposition 
scheme and the right page-rearrangement software to implement it.

Peter

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¹ The real problems are in the copyediting and proofreading of the text, 
and that's common to all systems. Maybe marginally easier in LaTeX 
because the master source is plain text, but the real difficulties come 
in dealing with semi-literate authors and technically ill-informed editors.

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What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-02-28 20:09 +0000
  Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-28 21:00 +0000
    Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-02-28 23:56 +0000
      Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-01 00:21 +0000
      Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-01 02:53 +0000
        Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-01 06:24 +0000
          Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-01 06:49 +0000
            Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-01 07:21 +0000
              Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-01 20:23 +0000
                Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-02 03:18 +0000
                Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Peter Flynn <peter@silmaril.ie> - 2025-03-03 21:38 +0000
                Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-03 23:35 +0000
                Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-04 02:35 +0000
                Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-04 03:13 +0000
                Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-04 03:31 +0000
                Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-04 20:18 +0100
                Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Peter Flynn <peter@silmaril.ie> - 2025-03-04 22:32 +0000
                Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-04 23:32 +0000
                Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Peter Flynn <peter@silmaril.ie> - 2025-03-05 22:08 +0000
          Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-01 20:17 +0000
            Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-02 03:02 +0000
          Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-02 22:03 +0000
            Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-03 03:17 +0000
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                Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-03 17:01 +0000
                Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays G <g@nowhere.invalid> - 2025-03-03 19:08 +0000
                Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-04 03:52 +0000
                Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-04 04:41 +0000
                Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Tim Slattery <TimSlattery@utexas.edu> - 2025-03-04 10:23 -0500
                Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Peter Flynn <peter@silmaril.ie> - 2025-03-04 22:39 +0000
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                Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-06 02:18 +0000
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                Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-06 10:45 +0000
                Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-06 12:50 +0100
                Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Peter Flynn <peter@silmaril.ie> - 2025-03-07 22:36 +0000
                Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-08 01:04 +0000
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                Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-05 21:11 +0100
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    Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Peter Flynn <peter@silmaril.ie> - 2025-03-04 22:43 +0000
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    Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-04 23:58 +0000
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