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From BeH <beh.on.usenet@gmail.com>
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Subject Re: 14th
Date 2023-12-08 00:34 +0100
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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On 29.11.2023 15.34, Merlyne wrote:
> BeH <beh.on.usenet@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:uju8g4$30in4$1@dont-email.me: 
> 
>> On 22.11.2023 14.33, Merlyne wrote:
>>> BeH <beh.on.usenet@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:uje4jm$9cl$1@dont-email.me: 
>>>
>>>> On 08.11.2023 14.11, Merlyne wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [unreadable stuff snipped]
>> [Unreadable stuff snipped II: Deeper snips]
> [I missed unreadable stuff snipped I, so I won't be able to follow the 
> plot]
[Don't worry - the plot is the same as USS II - only with slightly less
violence]

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now I want a pastry :(
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There you go. I'm sure it's all very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> healthy: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=wienerbr%C3%
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> B8d&t=ffab&iar=images&iax=images&
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ia=images 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A lot of good a picture will do me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyways, I bought some 2-bite apple
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> turnover thingees at the store. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure they were good too, for what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they were. 2-bite? As in tiny ones?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They are small.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perfect for when you need something sweet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but don't want to eat a big slab of pie.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn't that what fruit is for?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What if your not in the mood for fruit?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What if you want caek or pie?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What if eating cake or pie is highly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discouraged? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it's on no country's food pyramid.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The baker's guild begs to differ.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They can beg all they want. Cake and pie will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never get on the pyramid. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I'm certain there was plenty of delicious
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> baked goods *in* the pyramids. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Like what?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something their Mummy made?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A chicken wrap maybe...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ramen noodles?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fruit of the Tomb?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tut y fruity Ice cream...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ancient Egyptian puns are hard :(
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll end making an asp of myself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can probably ask your smart phone... that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> O'Siris thing. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That didn't land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did your eye-phone die?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As if I can afford or want one of those.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm confident your [brand] smart phone has a similar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oracle-like functionality by whatever name.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I never use it since if I shout a question at it, it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shouts back the answer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That'll learn you to speak nicely to the mindless piece of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unlikely!
>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you even tried?
>>>>>>>>>>> No. I don't want the Mega tech Corporation to have my
>>>>>>>>>>> recordings. 
>>>>>>>>>> Oh, they have your recordings. Portable device microphones are
>>>>>>>>>> getting pretty good these days.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't know why anybody would want those.
>>>>>>>> The more they know... the more they can sell you stuff.
>>>>>>> Oh no!
>>>>>> And if that doesn't work there's always blackmail.
>>>>> oh no!
>>>>> Actually I won't pay if they threaten to tell everyone that I've
>>>>> been looking at shoes online again. 
>>>> But what if they threaten to put the recordings of you singing to
>>>> yourself and your cat on the Utoob?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Now I know they are watching the wrong place.
>>> *phew*
>> Are you trying to claim it's the cat that does all the singing in your
>> house?
>>
> The cat sings at 4:30 am every day.
> so yes...
Is that a local radio station. I don't think anyone uses the AM band
around here any more. It's all mostly digital now anyways.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You do know that [Mega tech Corporation] has records of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all your shouting now, right? You probably get served a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lot of ads for lozenges and such.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I see ads for lozenges, how will I be able to tell if
>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the shouting at Google or because I viewed and/or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> purchased them online? 
>>>>>>>>>>>> You won't. That's the insidious part. Also who even buys
>>>>>>>>>>>> lozenges online? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have contemplated it. The bag of Ricola is cheaper on
>>>>>>>>>>> Amazon than at the phramacy.
>>>>>>>>>> Sure, everywhere else is cheaper that at the pharmacy. You pay
>>>>>>>>>> extra to have stuff sold to you by a person employed by an
>>>>>>>>>> actual pharmacist. Don't they have Ricola in your local shop?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They are cheaper on Amazon than at Wal-Mart even.
>>>>>>>> But there will be a delivery charge, surely. Unless one has
>>>>>>>> Amazon prime, which I gather is being paid for in some way.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have Amazon Prime :)
>>>>>> I didn't doubt it for a minute. And you pay for that one way or
>>>>>> another. Have I mentioned that Amazon doesn't have a presence in
>>>>>> my country, in real world of on the web, save for a redirect to
>>>>>> the German site. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Other than free 2 days delivery, I also get Prime Video and Amazon
>>>>> Music channels. The price is 100% worth it just for those things.
>>>> Okay then - as long as you are happy. [Something about bundling free
>>>> delivery with those other things to invite more trade the warehouse
>>>> part of the MegaCorp.]
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The pharmacies here are like department stores.
>>>>>>>> The pharmacies here are in principle only allowed to sell
>>>>>>>> medicine (prescription, non-prescription and with a special
>>>>>>>> permit medicine for production animals) and "such goods as
>>>>>>>> naturally and conveniently relate to pharmacy business as
>>>>>>>> determined by the Health Department". Also they need a licence.
>>>>>>>> They all sell stuff like toothpicks and plasters and vitamins
>>>>>>>> and such. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One of the large pharmacy chains is owned by a grocery chain, so
>>>>>>> they sell groceries, electronics, cleaning supplies etc.
>>>>>> But surely it's a separate counter for prescription medicine? With
>>>>>> a trained staff?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yes. They also now lock up all the cold medication until said staff
>>>>> arrive. Probably because of Breaking Bad. 
>>>> Breaking Bad is the one with the chemistry teacher who starts
>>>> cooking meth and goes crazy? Does that involve cold medication? Also
>>>> there is no cure for common cold; so cough drops or something?
>>>>
>>> I think ephedrine is used to make meth.
>> I see... *takes notes* Anything else?
>>
> Not sure. Google it.
> Or watch Breaking Bad. It's a really good show.
But not available on danish state tv...
I was informed that Fargo was a really good show too. I saw the first
episode and decided otherwise.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whatever an ancient dead pharaoh/demi-god liked to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eat with their coffee, I guess.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did they have coffee? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What good would being an ancient pharaoh if it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't include coffee? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm wondering when coffee was introduced to Egypt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now I am too. Are you going to look it up?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *sigh*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to the National Coffee Association (who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knew?): "By the 15th century, coffee was being grown in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Yemeni district of Arabia and by the 16th century
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it was known in Persia, Egypt, Syria, and Turkey.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Coffee was not only enjoyed in homes, but also in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many public coffee houses — called qahveh khaneh —
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which began to appear in cities across the Near East." 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not in King Tut's time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No wonder he died young, then.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought he was murdered.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't think so... He was a sickly kid born with all sorts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of defects. Perhaps not too surprising, given the family
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tradition of selecting spouses from within the family.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It keeps the blood lines pure.
>>>>>>>>>>>> And promotes all the 'fun' genetics...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Must be some definition of the word 'fun' that I was
>>>>>>>>>>> previously unaware of.
>>>>>>>>>> 'Fun' in a scientific sense... Like when the geneticists mix
>>>>>>>>>> up dinosaur genes with frog genes late on a friday after a few
>>>>>>>>>> beers and giggles about the fun new species they make.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm giggling right now.
>>>>>>>> See: Fun!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I guess it's a side effect of not inviting scientists to
>>>>>>>>> parties. 
>>>>>>>> If one does it's probably prudent to mention that the invitation
>>>>>>>> does not include any reconstituted raptors they may have around.
>>>>>>>> Not even as a present for the host.
>>>>>>> It might be entertaining to watch.
>>>>>> It's all fun and games until some lawyer gets eaten.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Who invited lawyers to the party?
>>>> Dunno, it's not my party. Might be a +1. Or maybe they got in on a
>>>> technicality. An unspecified technicality like in the crime shows.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I find the police do more weird/stupid things than the lawyers do on
>>> tv. Like when they try to sneak up on suspect in a police car with
>>> the lights flashing and the siren on. Who wouldn't run?
>> Black people.
>>
>> I'm more annoyed by teevee detectives who "solves" their cases by
>> uncovering some "evidence" that is either blatently inconclusive or so
>> flimsy (or irrelevant) it will never make a difference in court.
> 
> First you have to accuse the wrong person (3 times).
That only applies until the budget for "wrongful arrest" compensation is
used up.

>> Also forensic scientists who make findings that are somewhere between
>> science fiction and impossible.
> 
> There is always a drop of blood (too small for dna analysis) that the 
> suspect missed.
It was only a few days ago I saw (in a tv-show) a medical examiner, who
also did all the forensics for some reason, find a drop of the culprits
blood in the victims blood on the murder weapon. And successfully DNA
sequenced it.

>> Police being bumbling idiots are at least realistic.
>>
> Sometimes I watch shows with real cold cases and the investigating 
> officers always ignore some compelling information.
As I said.
In period english crime stories they always spend a lot of time chasing
down the vagrant who invariable have been seen somewhere nearby.

>> [USS Part III: The retconning]
> [*Merlyne wakes up* I've had the strangest dream...]
[Was it about endless lines of chevrons?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh dear!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What!!?! Who is bat boy?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It was a tabloid thing back in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> day. >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat_Boy_ 
>>>>>>>>>>> (character
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ) 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm shocked - shocked I tell you - to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> learn that a newspaper would just make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up a story, with no regard for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrity 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the press. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, you aren't.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That may or may not have been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sarcastic... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought it was fake outrage.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The outrage is real. The shock maybe not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so much. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see. Batboy enrages you. Noted.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not Batboy as such - the lack of clarity
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about the fact that Batboy was wholly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fictional. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's pretty obvious, no?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Although, I'm sure there are a few kooks who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe he is real. *shrug*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I refer you to the case of the radio
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dramatisation of H.G. Wells' "The War of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Worlds". 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, yes...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is also the ancient dictum (about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> writing manuals): Don't write to be understood
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - write to not be *mis*understood. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I always write user guide like the audience is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a 6 year old. Even then (with screenshots)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people mess things up. I had a math professor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that told me: it's not that people can't do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> math, they just can't read. Ah...the lost art
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of reading... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Speaking of... I just finished The Clan of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cave Bear. All 587 pages of it. That's a lot of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> words. Not all of them strictly necessary in my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opinion... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm on book 3 of the Wheel of Time series. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> average size is 826 pages. There are 13 books
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plus a prequel. So there!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not that it's a competition or anything but I did
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> finish the next book in the series and am 2/3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through the third. Before that I (re)read the 13
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> volumes of the chronicles of Pern that I have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's mostly about dragons - science fiction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dragons. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I used to read those when I was a teenager. My dad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> took them to work for a book sale and all the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer nerds lost their minds. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That can't have been good for productivity...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They were government jobs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Government jobs have productivity measurements too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They are just... different.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People who don't work in the government seem to think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we don't any work. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have been working a lot alongside public employees of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> various kinds. To avoid annoying you I shall refrain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from commenting on this. They do hold a lot of meetings,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though. Long meetings. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I worked for Census, we did have a lot of meetings.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not so much where I am now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Depends on who's in charge.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I was there it was usually because of some (major)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes in organisation and/or workflow. Gotta hold
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meetings about that sort of thing. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I worked in the private sector, they had a huge all
>>>>>>>>>>>>> staff meeting in the ballroom of a super-posh hotel to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> annouce the company was changing it's name. One woman in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the middle of the crowd jumped up and screamed 'I love it!'
>>>>>>>>>>>>> after the new name was revealed. I was just there for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> free food. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, they do that sometimes - for publicity. And probably
>>>>>>>>>>>> with invited 'news-media' persons, who are also just there
>>>>>>>>>>>> for the free food. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Nothing wrong with free food.
>>>>>>>>>> Especially if it is tax-deductible.
>>>>>>>>> Deductions from net income:
>>>>>>>>> Free food: $0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's certainly not a deduction for the consumers of the food.
>>>>>>>>> And it might be for the purchaser if the purchaser was a
>>>>>>>>> registered charity.
>>>>>>>> If (and it is) the food is served as part of a promotional
>>>>>>>> initiative it will be a business expense for the company, thus
>>>>>>>> reducing the taxable profit.
>>>>>>>> On the other hand it may be a taxable material good for whoever
>>>>>>>> eat from it... hmmm.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I dunno.
>>>>>>> I just ate the free food and tried not to over-think it.
>>>>>> I wouldn't speak about it so freely in front of the tax-man if I
>>>>>> were you. 
>>>>>>
>>>>> Why?
>>>> Do you want to get audited for not declaring taxable goods or
>>>> services received?
>>>>
>>> I challenge them to prove it!
>> With all the media people taking part in the event that shouldn't be
>> all that difficult.
>>
> There shouldn't be any pictures. I was practicing stealing things 
> stealthily.
Honestly!
One of the first rules of stealthy stealing is not to do it if there are
a lot of cameras around.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I never knew about them before I inherited them, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't consider them for reading for a long time,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thinking they were 'Fantasy'. Because of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dragons. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I liek dragons!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The books are more about how civilization can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> devolve. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And the importance of preserving knowledge.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And how some people are just shitty humans, through
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> malice or ignorance. And dragons.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YAY! Dragons!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Science-fictionally believable dragons.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't been reading as much as I normally do in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the summer. Usually, I go outside and lounge and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read but this summer has been either super hot or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> raining, making the mosquitoes quite fierce. Also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my Kobo broke. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Assuming a Kobo is some kind of e-reader and not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your favourite lounge-chair, let me point out that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> books also come as self-contained stacks of printed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paper... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. I can put several on a Kobo which weighs a few
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ounces. This comes in handy when you finish a book
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when you are away from home. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unless you run out of battery and forget the charger.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep that could happen.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that would be bad.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can play with my phone instead.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought the phone was for public transport and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> zoom-meetings... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's for any times when I am bored.
>>>>>>>>>>>> How can you be bored when you have all those thousands of
>>>>>>>>>>>> books to read? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I like having options.
>>>>>>>>>> What is thousands of books if not options?
>>>>>>>>> It's about variety, you know, the spice of life.
>>>>>>>>> Reading = 1 option.
>>>>>>>>> Other options = listening to music/podcast
>>>>>>>>> Snoozing
>>>>>>>>> Playing Candy Crush
>>>>>>>> I see... Anything to not be thinking about stuff? Or interact
>>>>>>>> with your fellow humans.
>>>>>>> Exactly!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, with paper books, you have to procure more and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then rid yourself of them once finished.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Get Rid Of Books!!?? What is this madness. What if you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to read them again at some point?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The number of books that I keep is very small.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which for instance prohibits you from now re-reading the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chronicles of Pern.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which I don't want to reread.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay then. Don't read about the dragons...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay. I won't.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also a Kobo has infinite storage, I take it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I forget how many books it can hold. More that you can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> carry even with a cargo bike.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So there!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hard-cover or paperback? My cargo bike is rated for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 200Kg. How many books is that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My new one can hold 12,000 books. How much does that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weigh? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From an admittedly small sample size paperbacks weigh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~50g/100pages. Assuming an average length of 350 pages
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's 175g * 12000 or about 2.1 metric tons. However you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aren't going to read nearly that many books in one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sitting/vacation/year(/lifetime). One cargo bike full is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about 1200 books, which will do me quite well for a while.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the point is that I can carry more books than you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> can. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the point is that even a cargo bike can hold more
>>>>>>>>>>>> books than it is reasonable to have on one's immediate
>>>>>>>>>>>> to-read list at any one time... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Still. I can carry more books.
>>>>>>>>>>> So there!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Quite. And the Tesla guy has more money than the Amazon guy
>>>>>>>>>> (or vice versa)... *shrug*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What's that to do with the price of eggs in China?
>>>>>>>> At some point 'more' becomes pointless...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're a poor loser.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've had so very little practice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You had 5 years experience losing arguments with Phil.
>>>> I never lost an argument with Phil. Easily verified by the fact that
>>>> he was wrong about most things.
>>>>
>>> That's not my recollection...
>>
>> Just think of all the points I gathered in that time.
>>
> I remember that you would declare yourself to be right and award 
> yourself points for it.
Only in situations where I was obviously right and deserving of points.

-- 
BeH

" We are trapped by language to such a degree that every attempt to
formulate insight is a play on words." - Niels Bohr

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                Re: 14th BeH <beh.on.usenet@gmail.com> - 2023-11-06 21:05 +0100
                Re: 14th Merlyne <kamilot3@aol.com> - 2023-11-08 13:11 +0000
                Re: 14th BeH <beh.on.usenet@gmail.com> - 2023-11-20 00:09 +0100
                Re: 14th Merlyne <kamilot3@aol.com> - 2023-11-22 13:33 +0000
                Re: 14th BeH <beh.on.usenet@gmail.com> - 2023-11-26 02:54 +0100
                Re: 14th Merlyne <kamilot3@aol.com> - 2023-11-29 14:34 +0000
                Re: 14th BeH <beh.on.usenet@gmail.com> - 2023-12-08 00:34 +0100
                Re: 14th Merlyne <kamilot3@aol.com> - 2023-12-18 19:45 +0000
                Re: 14th BeH <beh.on.usenet@gmail.com> - 2024-01-04 14:41 +0100
                Re: 14th Merlyne <kamilot3@aol.com> - 2024-01-07 22:21 +0000
                Re: 14th BeH <beh.on.usenet@gmail.com> - 2024-01-12 13:30 +0100
                Re: 14th Merlyne <kamilot3@aol.com> - 2024-01-14 15:02 +0000
                Re: 14th BeH <beh.on.usenet@gmail.com> - 2024-02-01 12:53 +0100
                Re: 14th Merlyne <kamilot3@aol.com> - 2024-02-11 14:49 +0000
                Re: 14th BeH <beh.on.usenet@gmail.com> - 2024-02-22 21:15 +0100
                Re: 14th Merlyne <kamilot3@aol.com> - 2024-02-24 20:56 +0000
                Re: 14th BeH <beh.on.usenet@gmail.com> - 2024-03-11 23:28 +0100
                Re: 14th Merlyne <kamilot3@aol.com> - 2024-03-12 13:30 +0000
                Re: 14th BeH <beh.on.usenet@gmail.com> - 2024-03-26 19:20 +0100
                Re: 14th Merlyne <kamilot3@aol.com> - 2024-03-31 20:39 +0000
                Re: 14th BeH <beh.on.usenet@gmail.com> - 2024-04-07 14:37 +0200
                Re: 14th Merlyne <kamilot3@aol.com> - 2024-04-07 15:29 +0000
                Re: 14th BeH <beh.on.usenet@gmail.com> - 2023-10-21 20:22 +0200
                Re: 14th Merlyne <kamilot3@aol.com> - 2023-10-25 14:26 +0000
                Re: 14th BeH <beh.on.usenet@gmail.com> - 2023-11-06 21:08 +0100

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