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From Merlyne <kamilot3@aol.com>
Newsgroups alt.acme.exploding.newsgroup
Subject Re: 14th
Date 2023-11-29 14:34 +0000
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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BeH <beh.on.usenet@gmail.com> wrote in
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> On 22.11.2023 14.33, Merlyne wrote:
>> BeH <beh.on.usenet@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:uje4jm$9cl$1@dont-email.me: 
>> 
>>> On 08.11.2023 14.11, Merlyne wrote:
> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [unreadable stuff snipped]
> [Unreadable stuff snipped II: Deeper snips]
[I missed unreadable stuff snipped I, so I won't be able to follow the 
plot]
> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now I want a pastry :(
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There you go. I'm sure it's all very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> healthy: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=wienerbr%C3%
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> B8d&t=ffab&iar=images&iax=images&
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ia=images 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A lot of good a picture will do me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyways, I bought some 2-bite apple
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> turnover thingees at the store. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure they were good too, for what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they were. 2-bite? As in tiny ones?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They are small.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perfect for when you need something sweet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but don't want to eat a big slab of pie.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn't that what fruit is for?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What if your not in the mood for fruit?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What if you want caek or pie?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What if eating cake or pie is highly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discouraged? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it's on no country's food pyramid.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The baker's guild begs to differ.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They can beg all they want. Cake and pie will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never get on the pyramid. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I'm certain there was plenty of delicious
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> baked goods *in* the pyramids. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Like what?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something their Mummy made?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A chicken wrap maybe...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ramen noodles?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fruit of the Tomb?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tut y fruity Ice cream...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ancient Egyptian puns are hard :(
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll end making an asp of myself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can probably ask your smart phone... that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> O'Siris thing. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That didn't land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did your eye-phone die?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As if I can afford or want one of those.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm confident your [brand] smart phone has a similar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oracle-like functionality by whatever name.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I never use it since if I shout a question at it, it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shouts back the answer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That'll learn you to speak nicely to the mindless piece of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> software. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Unlikely!
>>>>>>>>>>> Have you even tried?
>>>>>>>>>> No. I don't want the Mega tech Corporation to have my
>>>>>>>>>> recordings. 
>>>>>>>>> Oh, they have your recordings. Portable device microphones are
>>>>>>>>> getting pretty good these days.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't know why anybody would want those.
>>>>>>> The more they know... the more they can sell you stuff.
>>>>>> Oh no!
>>>>> And if that doesn't work there's always blackmail.
>>>> oh no!
>>>> Actually I won't pay if they threaten to tell everyone that I've
>>>> been looking at shoes online again. 
>>> But what if they threaten to put the recordings of you singing to
>>> yourself and your cat on the Utoob?
>>>
>> 
>> Now I know they are watching the wrong place.
>> *phew*
> Are you trying to claim it's the cat that does all the singing in your
> house?
> 
The cat sings at 4:30 am every day.
so yes...

>>>>>>>>>>>>> You do know that [Mega tech Corporation] has records of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> all your shouting now, right? You probably get served a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> lot of ads for lozenges and such.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If I see ads for lozenges, how will I be able to tell if
>>>>>>>>>>>> from the shouting at Google or because I viewed and/or
>>>>>>>>>>>> purchased them online? 
>>>>>>>>>>> You won't. That's the insidious part. Also who even buys
>>>>>>>>>>> lozenges online? 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have contemplated it. The bag of Ricola is cheaper on
>>>>>>>>>> Amazon than at the phramacy.
>>>>>>>>> Sure, everywhere else is cheaper that at the pharmacy. You pay
>>>>>>>>> extra to have stuff sold to you by a person employed by an
>>>>>>>>> actual pharmacist. Don't they have Ricola in your local shop?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They are cheaper on Amazon than at Wal-Mart even.
>>>>>>> But there will be a delivery charge, surely. Unless one has
>>>>>>> Amazon prime, which I gather is being paid for in some way.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have Amazon Prime :)
>>>>> I didn't doubt it for a minute. And you pay for that one way or
>>>>> another. Have I mentioned that Amazon doesn't have a presence in
>>>>> my country, in real world of on the web, save for a redirect to
>>>>> the German site. 
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Other than free 2 days delivery, I also get Prime Video and Amazon
>>>> Music channels. The price is 100% worth it just for those things.
>>> Okay then - as long as you are happy. [Something about bundling free
>>> delivery with those other things to invite more trade the warehouse
>>> part of the MegaCorp.]
>>>
>>>>>>>> The pharmacies here are like department stores.
>>>>>>> The pharmacies here are in principle only allowed to sell
>>>>>>> medicine (prescription, non-prescription and with a special
>>>>>>> permit medicine for production animals) and "such goods as
>>>>>>> naturally and conveniently relate to pharmacy business as
>>>>>>> determined by the Health Department". Also they need a licence.
>>>>>>> They all sell stuff like toothpicks and plasters and vitamins
>>>>>>> and such. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> One of the large pharmacy chains is owned by a grocery chain, so
>>>>>> they sell groceries, electronics, cleaning supplies etc.
>>>>> But surely it's a separate counter for prescription medicine? With
>>>>> a trained staff?
>>>>>
>>>> Yes. They also now lock up all the cold medication until said staff
>>>> arrive. Probably because of Breaking Bad. 
>>> Breaking Bad is the one with the chemistry teacher who starts
>>> cooking meth and goes crazy? Does that involve cold medication? Also
>>> there is no cure for common cold; so cough drops or something?
>>>
>> I think ephedrine is used to make meth.
> I see... *takes notes* Anything else?
> 
Not sure. Google it.
Or watch Breaking Bad. It's a really good show.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whatever an ancient dead pharaoh/demi-god liked to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eat with their coffee, I guess.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did they have coffee? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What good would being an ancient pharaoh if it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't include coffee? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm wondering when coffee was introduced to Egypt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now I am too. Are you going to look it up?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *sigh*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to the National Coffee Association (who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knew?): "By the 15th century, coffee was being grown in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Yemeni district of Arabia and by the 16th century
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it was known in Persia, Egypt, Syria, and Turkey.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Coffee was not only enjoyed in homes, but also in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many public coffee houses — called qahveh khaneh —
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which began to appear in cities across the Near East." 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not in King Tut's time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No wonder he died young, then.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought he was murdered.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't think so... He was a sickly kid born with all sorts
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of defects. Perhaps not too surprising, given the family
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tradition of selecting spouses from within the family.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It keeps the blood lines pure.
>>>>>>>>>>> And promotes all the 'fun' genetics...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Must be some definition of the word 'fun' that I was
>>>>>>>>>> previously unaware of.
>>>>>>>>> 'Fun' in a scientific sense... Like when the geneticists mix
>>>>>>>>> up dinosaur genes with frog genes late on a friday after a few
>>>>>>>>> beers and giggles about the fun new species they make.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm giggling right now.
>>>>>>> See: Fun!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I guess it's a side effect of not inviting scientists to
>>>>>>>> parties. 
>>>>>>> If one does it's probably prudent to mention that the invitation
>>>>>>> does not include any reconstituted raptors they may have around.
>>>>>>> Not even as a present for the host.
>>>>>> It might be entertaining to watch.
>>>>> It's all fun and games until some lawyer gets eaten.
>>>>>
>>>> Who invited lawyers to the party?
>>> Dunno, it's not my party. Might be a +1. Or maybe they got in on a
>>> technicality. An unspecified technicality like in the crime shows.
>>>
>> 
>> I find the police do more weird/stupid things than the lawyers do on
>> tv. Like when they try to sneak up on suspect in a police car with
>> the lights flashing and the siren on. Who wouldn't run?
> Black people.
> 
> I'm more annoyed by teevee detectives who "solves" their cases by
> uncovering some "evidence" that is either blatently inconclusive or so
> flimsy (or irrelevant) it will never make a difference in court.

First you have to accuse the wrong person (3 times).

> Also forensic scientists who make findings that are somewhere between
> science fiction and impossible.

There is always a drop of blood (too small for dna analysis) that the 
suspect missed.

> Police being bumbling idiots are at least realistic.
> 
Sometimes I watch shows with real cold cases and the investigating 
officers always ignore some compelling information.

> [USS Part III: The retconning]
[*Merlyne wakes up* I've had the strangest dream...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh dear!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What!!?! Who is bat boy?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It was a tabloid thing back in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>day. >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat_Boy_ 
>>>>>>>>>> (character
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ) 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm shocked - shocked I tell you - to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> learn that a newspaper would just make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up a story, with no regard for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrity 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the press. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, you aren't.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That may or may not have been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sarcastic... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought it was fake outrage.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The outrage is real. The shock maybe not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so much. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see. Batboy enrages you. Noted.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not Batboy as such - the lack of clarity
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about the fact that Batboy was wholly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fictional. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's pretty obvious, no?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Although, I'm sure there are a few kooks who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe he is real. *shrug*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I refer you to the case of the radio
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dramatisation of H.G. Wells' "The War of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Worlds". 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, yes...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is also the ancient dictum (about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> writing manuals): Don't write to be understood
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - write to not be *mis*understood. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I always write user guide like the audience is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a 6 year old. Even then (with screenshots)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people mess things up. I had a math professor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that told me: it's not that people can't do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> math, they just can't read. Ah...the lost art
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of reading... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Speaking of... I just finished The Clan of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cave Bear. All 587 pages of it. That's a lot of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> words. Not all of them strictly necessary in my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opinion... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm on book 3 of the Wheel of Time series. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> average size is 826 pages. There are 13 books
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plus a prequel. So there!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not that it's a competition or anything but I did
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> finish the next book in the series and am 2/3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through the third. Before that I (re)read the 13
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> volumes of the chronicles of Pern that I have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's mostly about dragons - science fiction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dragons. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I used to read those when I was a teenager. My dad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> took them to work for a book sale and all the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer nerds lost their minds. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That can't have been good for productivity...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They were government jobs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Government jobs have productivity measurements too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They are just... different.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People who don't work in the government seem to think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we don't any work. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have been working a lot alongside public employees of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> various kinds. To avoid annoying you I shall refrain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from commenting on this. They do hold a lot of meetings,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though. Long meetings. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I worked for Census, we did have a lot of meetings.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not so much where I am now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Depends on who's in charge.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I was there it was usually because of some (major)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes in organisation and/or workflow. Gotta hold
>>>>>>>>>>>>> meetings about that sort of thing. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> When I worked in the private sector, they had a huge all
>>>>>>>>>>>> staff meeting in the ballroom of a super-posh hotel to
>>>>>>>>>>>> annouce the company was changing it's name. One woman in
>>>>>>>>>>>> the middle of the crowd jumped up and screamed 'I love it!'
>>>>>>>>>>>> after the new name was revealed. I was just there for the
>>>>>>>>>>>> free food. 
>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, they do that sometimes - for publicity. And probably
>>>>>>>>>>> with invited 'news-media' persons, who are also just there
>>>>>>>>>>> for the free food. 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nothing wrong with free food.
>>>>>>>>> Especially if it is tax-deductible.
>>>>>>>> Deductions from net income:
>>>>>>>> Free food: $0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's certainly not a deduction for the consumers of the food.
>>>>>>>> And it might be for the purchaser if the purchaser was a
>>>>>>>> registered charity.
>>>>>>> If (and it is) the food is served as part of a promotional
>>>>>>> initiative it will be a business expense for the company, thus
>>>>>>> reducing the taxable profit.
>>>>>>> On the other hand it may be a taxable material good for whoever
>>>>>>> eat from it... hmmm.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I dunno.
>>>>>> I just ate the free food and tried not to over-think it.
>>>>> I wouldn't speak about it so freely in front of the tax-man if I
>>>>> were you. 
>>>>>
>>>> Why?
>>> Do you want to get audited for not declaring taxable goods or
>>> services received?
>>>
>> I challenge them to prove it!
> With all the media people taking part in the event that shouldn't be
> all that difficult.
> 
There shouldn't be any pictures. I was practicing stealing things 
stealthily.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I never knew about them before I inherited them, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't consider them for reading for a long time,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thinking they were 'Fantasy'. Because of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dragons. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I liek dragons!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The books are more about how civilization can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> devolve. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And the importance of preserving knowledge.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And how some people are just shitty humans, through
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> malice or ignorance. And dragons.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YAY! Dragons!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Science-fictionally believable dragons.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't been reading as much as I normally do in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the summer. Usually, I go outside and lounge and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read but this summer has been either super hot or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> raining, making the mosquitoes quite fierce. Also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my Kobo broke. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Assuming a Kobo is some kind of e-reader and not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your favourite lounge-chair, let me point out that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> books also come as self-contained stacks of printed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paper... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. I can put several on a Kobo which weighs a few
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ounces. This comes in handy when you finish a book
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when you are away from home. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unless you run out of battery and forget the charger.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep that could happen.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that would be bad.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can play with my phone instead.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought the phone was for public transport and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> zoom-meetings... 
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's for any times when I am bored.
>>>>>>>>>>> How can you be bored when you have all those thousands of
>>>>>>>>>>> books to read? 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I like having options.
>>>>>>>>> What is thousands of books if not options?
>>>>>>>> It's about variety, you know, the spice of life.
>>>>>>>> Reading = 1 option.
>>>>>>>> Other options = listening to music/podcast
>>>>>>>> Snoozing
>>>>>>>> Playing Candy Crush
>>>>>>> I see... Anything to not be thinking about stuff? Or interact
>>>>>>> with your fellow humans.
>>>>>> Exactly!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, with paper books, you have to procure more and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then rid yourself of them once finished.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Get Rid Of Books!!?? What is this madness. What if you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to read them again at some point?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The number of books that I keep is very small.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which for instance prohibits you from now re-reading the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chronicles of Pern.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which I don't want to reread.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay then. Don't read about the dragons...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay. I won't.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also a Kobo has infinite storage, I take it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I forget how many books it can hold. More that you can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> carry even with a cargo bike.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So there!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hard-cover or paperback? My cargo bike is rated for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 200Kg. How many books is that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My new one can hold 12,000 books. How much does that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weigh? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From an admittedly small sample size paperbacks weigh
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~50g/100pages. Assuming an average length of 350 pages
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's 175g * 12000 or about 2.1 metric tons. However you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> aren't going to read nearly that many books in one
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sitting/vacation/year(/lifetime). One cargo bike full is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> about 1200 books, which will do me quite well for a while.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the point is that I can carry more books than you
>>>>>>>>>>>> can. 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think the point is that even a cargo bike can hold more
>>>>>>>>>>> books than it is reasonable to have on one's immediate
>>>>>>>>>>> to-read list at any one time... 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Still. I can carry more books.
>>>>>>>>>> So there!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Quite. And the Tesla guy has more money than the Amazon guy
>>>>>>>>> (or vice versa)... *shrug*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What's that to do with the price of eggs in China?
>>>>>>> At some point 'more' becomes pointless...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're a poor loser.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've had so very little practice.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You had 5 years experience losing arguments with Phil.
>>> I never lost an argument with Phil. Easily verified by the fact that
>>> he was wrong about most things.
>>>
>> That's not my recollection...
> 
> Just think of all the points I gathered in that time.
> 
I remember that you would declare yourself to be right and award 
yourself points for it.

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                Re: 14th Merlyne <kamilot3@aol.com> - 2024-02-24 20:56 +0000
                Re: 14th BeH <beh.on.usenet@gmail.com> - 2024-03-11 23:28 +0100
                Re: 14th Merlyne <kamilot3@aol.com> - 2024-03-12 13:30 +0000
                Re: 14th BeH <beh.on.usenet@gmail.com> - 2024-03-26 19:20 +0100
                Re: 14th Merlyne <kamilot3@aol.com> - 2024-03-31 20:39 +0000
                Re: 14th BeH <beh.on.usenet@gmail.com> - 2024-04-07 14:37 +0200
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