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Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ?

From Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de>
Newsgroups alt.folklore.computers, alt.usage.english
Subject Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ?
Followup-To alt.folklore.computers
Date 2022-11-12 19:25 +0000
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Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> schrieb:
> On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 12:55:24 -0500
> Tak To <takto@alum.mit.eduxx> wrote:
>
>> On 11/12/2022 10:32 AM, gareth evans wrote:
>
>> > Indeed. From the point of view of elegance of instruction set and the
>> > joy of writing assember therein, it's a pity that the Motorola
>> > 68000 series ws not the choice for the IBM PC
>> 
>> The Motorola 68000 was not ready at the time of the first PC,
>
> 	This is true - but even the 6809 would have been nicer than the
> 8088.

The 6809 only has a 16-bit address bus, and even the severely
crippeled 8088 can address a megabyte (insert fear and loathing
about just _how_).

Now, if Motorola had built an ARM v2 instead of the 68000 (entirely
possible at that timeframe, it had far fewer transistors, and much
higher performance) history might have been different.

>
>> and the future of the personal computer market was read
>> horribly incorrectly by IBM (and DEC, and almost every key
>> player at that time).
>
> 	Yep. I could have wished that IBM had left it a couple of years
> longer before getting involved. A 68000 and XENIX with IBM leaning on the
> license fee like Godzilla with a hangover would have been nice in 1985.
> Instead we had to wait a while and get BSD or Linux on an 80386 (shudder)
> in 1992.

I well remember downloading Slackware on a stack of floppy discs.
At University, I had already worked with HP workstations, which
were a revelation compared to mainframes.

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Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2022-11-06 18:18 +0000
  Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2022-11-06 17:10 -0500
    Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2022-11-06 17:18 -0500
      Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-11-06 22:22 +0000
        Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2022-11-06 22:32 -0600
        Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2022-11-06 23:46 -0500
        Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2022-11-08 15:03 -0700
          Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2022-11-08 22:42 +0000
            Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2022-11-08 22:49 -0500
              Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2022-11-09 13:48 -0700
            Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2022-11-08 23:21 -0600
              Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2022-11-09 18:36 +0000
                Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2022-11-09 13:06 -0600
                Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? greymaus <greymaus@dmaus.org> - 2022-11-09 19:49 +0000
                Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2022-11-09 21:32 +0000
                Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2022-11-09 23:29 -0600
                Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2022-11-10 19:08 +0000
                Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2022-11-11 22:16 -0600
                Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-11-10 06:40 -0700
                Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? D.J. <chucktheouch@gmnol.com> - 2022-11-10 10:57 -0600
                Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2022-11-09 23:14 -0600
            Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2022-11-09 13:46 -0700
      Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2022-11-08 14:52 -0700
        Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2022-11-08 22:44 -0500
          Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-11-09 06:04 -0700
            Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2022-11-09 09:06 -0500
              Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? Tak To <takto@alum.mit.eduxx> - 2022-11-09 13:11 -0500
              Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2022-11-09 15:35 -0700
              Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-11-10 06:40 -0700
                Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? Tak To <takto@alum.mit.eduxx> - 2022-11-10 12:04 -0500
                Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-10 21:09 +0000
                Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2022-11-10 23:18 +0000
                Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2022-11-10 22:45 -0500
                Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-11 21:30 +0000
                Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2022-11-11 22:47 +0000
                Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? Tak To <takto@alum.mit.eduxx> - 2022-11-11 19:52 -0500
                Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2022-11-12 10:16 +0000
                Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-11-11 18:16 -0700
                Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2022-11-12 20:50 +1100
                Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2022-11-12 08:07 -0600
                Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-11-12 11:42 -0700
                Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2022-11-12 19:38 +0000
                Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2022-11-13 10:32 +1100
                Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2022-11-12 15:32 +0000
                Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? Tak To <takto@alum.mit.eduxx> - 2022-11-12 12:55 -0500
                Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2022-11-12 18:42 +0000
                Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2022-11-12 19:25 +0000
                Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? Tak To <takto@alum.mit.eduxx> - 2022-11-12 14:41 -0500
                Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-14 17:36 +0000
                Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2022-11-15 06:05 +0000
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                Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2022-11-13 05:41 +0000
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                Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2022-11-13 05:42 +0000
                Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2022-11-13 09:55 +0000
                Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? Tak To <takto@alum.mit.eduxx> - 2022-11-12 12:36 -0500
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                Re: do some Americans write their 1's in this way ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2022-11-13 17:57 +0000
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