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Re: A science question about the trajectory of light

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
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Subject Re: A science question about the trajectory of light
Date 2022-04-03 12:58 +0000
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RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On April 2, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> Swing a ball around on a rope. If the rope breaks, the ball will 
>>>> continue its circular motion. It's simply Newton's first law. 
>> 
>>> Really? Do you actually believe this? 
>> 
>> I think it’s pretty clear RichD is another one of these word-salad wannabes 
>> that is seeking community acceptance in a subject he knows not the first 
>> thing about, but is happy to dress up as though he does, using physics-y 
>> words, citing random article titles, casually name-dropping physicists. 
> 
> The fish bites twice!
> Picasso never painted such a work of art.
> 
> Listen, Bod, I don't know about word salads, but I 
> do know something about door knobs.  Last night 
> I tested those in my house for IQ, and six out of eight 
> outscored you.
> 
> But as the sporting type, I'll give you a chance to redeem 
> yourself.  I have a little quiz I spring on unsuspecting 
> victims, on science, math, economics.  Herewith, a question 
> no one has yet answered satisfactorily:
> 
> A bicyclist will dust a runner on foot, whether a peak speed 
> sprint, or long distance.  Explain this, at the Physics 101 level.
> Why is a bike faster than Nike?
> 
> Show us you know the FIRST THING about the subject -  

Well this is fun. I don’t know the answer for sure. 

I do not think a bicyclist can stay ahead of a sprinter for the first 20
yards. 

But beyond that, I think it is due to an inherent limitation of the speed
of the lower leg’s fast-twitch fibered muscles, coupled with the attachment
point of the muscle to the lower leg bones. This is also related to why an
80 lb chimpanzee is four times stronger than a 180 lb man, but cannot throw
a ball with any speed; the attachment point of the chimp’s muscle is
further away from the joint, trading speed for leverage. 

Between the cyclist and the sprinter, when both are ramped up to fastest
leg speed, the bicyclist now has an obvious advantage, because of the ratio
of the radius of the wheel compared to the radius of the pedal crank, which
in turn is about the same as the average radius of the runner’s foot
motion. The tangential speed of the wheel is larger than the tangential
speed of the foot by the same ratio as that of the radii.  

> 
> --
> Rich
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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  Re: A science question about the trajectory of light Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-03-29 22:13 -0700
    Re: A science question about the trajectory of light Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-03-30 07:51 -0700
      Re: A science question about the trajectory of light Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-03-30 12:06 -0400
        Re: A science question about the trajectory of light Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-03-30 09:33 -0700
          Re: A science question about the trajectory of light Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-30 17:03 +0000
            Re: A science question about the trajectory of light Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-03-30 11:37 -0700
          Re: A science question about the trajectory of light "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2022-03-30 11:59 -0700
            Re: A science question about the trajectory of light Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-03-30 13:05 -0700
              Re: A science question about the trajectory of light "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2022-03-30 13:47 -0700
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            Re: A science question about the trajectory of light Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-31 13:18 +0000
            Re: A science question about the trajectory of light Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-03-31 07:28 -0700
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                Re: A science question about the trajectory of light Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-04-02 09:10 -0700
                Re: A science question about the trajectory of light RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-04-02 12:45 -0700
                Re: A science question about the trajectory of light Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-03 12:58 +0000
                Re: A science question about the trajectory of light RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-04-03 16:53 -0700
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                Re: A science question about the trajectory of light RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-04-04 14:47 -0700
                Re: A science question about the trajectory of light Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-05 17:09 +0000
                Re: A science question about the trajectory of light nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-04-05 21:02 +0200
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                Re: A science question about the trajectory of light nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-04-06 17:48 +0200
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                Re: A science question about the trajectory of light RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-04-06 20:12 -0700
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                Re: A science question about the trajectory of light nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-04-07 16:21 +0200
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                Re: A science question about the trajectory of light Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-06 16:17 +0000
                Re: A science question about the trajectory of light whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-04-06 22:10 -0500
                Re: A science question about the trajectory of light Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-07 13:21 +0000
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                Re: A science question about the trajectory of light nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-04-03 16:38 +0200
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          Re: A science question about the trajectory of light Townes Olson <townesolson7@gmail.com> - 2022-03-30 13:39 -0700
            Re: A science question about the trajectory of light Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-03-31 07:05 -0700
              Re: A science question about the trajectory of light Townes Olson <townesolson7@gmail.com> - 2022-03-31 08:19 -0700
                Re: A science question about the trajectory of light Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-03-31 08:36 -0700
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          Re: A science question about the trajectory of light rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2022-03-30 14:52 -0700
            Re: A science question about the trajectory of light Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-03-31 07:09 -0700
              Re: A science question about the trajectory of light rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2022-03-31 07:24 -0700
                Re: A science question about the trajectory of light Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-03-31 07:55 -0700
                Re: A science question about the trajectory of light Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-03-31 12:15 -0400
                Re: A science question about the trajectory of light Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-31 16:46 +0000
                Re: A science question about the trajectory of light rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2022-03-31 13:41 -0700
                Re: A science question about the trajectory of light Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-03-31 14:04 -0700
                Re: A science question about the trajectory of light Townes Olson <townesolson7@gmail.com> - 2022-03-31 14:31 -0700
                Re: A science question about the trajectory of light Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-31 21:54 +0000
              Re: A science question about the trajectory of light Fletcher Krupp <flk@uuppcn.jp> - 2022-03-31 14:39 +0000
              Re: A science question about the trajectory of light Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2022-03-31 07:41 -0700
                Re: A science question about the trajectory of light Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-03-31 08:20 -0700
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                Re: A science question about the trajectory of light RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-03-31 14:55 -0700
                Re: A science question about the trajectory of light Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-03-31 09:12 -0700
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