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| From | Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics |
| Subject | Re: Organisms pick & choose from the DNA smorgasbord. |
| Date | 2021-10-04 21:35 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <sjgdm9$pk5$1@solani.org> (permalink) |
| References | (7 earlier) <sje0dq$vee$1@solani.org> <sjeb17$9l8$1@gioia.aioe.org> <sjfj3q$d34$1@solani.org> <sjg2k2$r3l$1@gioia.aioe.org> <sjg97t$q1h$1@solani.org> |
On 10/4/2021 8:19 PM, Clutterfreak wrote: > On 10/4/2021 6:26 PM, Michael Moroney wrote: >> On 10/4/2021 3:02 PM, Clutterfreak wrote: >>> On 10/4/2021 2:38 AM, Michael Moroney wrote: >>>> The mutations for European light skin evolved about 20,000 years ago >>> >>> >>> Hahah :) See, it is not the mutation to transparent skin that >>> determined it. This mutation has always been taking place at tiny >>> percentages anywhere, even for roaches. It is a constant process. >> >> Nope. There are three genetic variants that determine the majority of >> skin color in humans. The point variant SNP rs1426654, also called >> Ala111Thr on the SLC24A5 gene, is the major change in European skin >> color. It happened about 20,000 years ago and accounts for about 60% >> of the lightening of Europeans. Light skin Asians don't have that but >> a different lightening variant instead. There are two other SNPs >> which accounts for most of the rest of European lightness which most >> Europeans also have. Neanderthals sequenced did not have the SLC24A5 >> Ala111Thr variant. Some (not all) had a different variant which >> should have given them both light skin and reddish hair. >> >>> It was the gradual perishing of dark skinned people in cloudy areas >>> that resulted in a totally transparent skinned people in that area >> >> That is generally true, with higher levels of Vitamin D, the lighter >> skinned people in Europe outcompeted the darker skinned people, more >> people were born with the rs1426654 variant which spread to the extent >> that nearly every pureblooded European has the variant. >> >> (Human genetics is an interest/almost hobby of mine) >> >>> after at least some three hundred thousand years, or more! It can be >>> calculated. >> >> Nope, nowhere near as long. Don't forget that 20,000 years is about >> 800 generations. Since there were never anywhere near 2^800 people in >> Europe, the person with the original SLC24A5 Ala111Thr mutation will >> appear in the family tree of Europeans many, many times. >> >>> You just have to model it to see it correctly. You need an S20 >>> ThinkStation and a physics background to compute it correctly :) >> >> The geneticists have already done those calculations. I simply use >> them. 20,000 years/800 generations is long enough. > > Conflict of interest doesn't get someone like me down. But in Cro-Magnon > people if present it is a major player and turns their works into > nothing different from bullshit. > > That was a general statement. Now regarding genetics, if you are an enthusiast then perhaps one day we will have a useful discussion about it. But as far as this problem (transparent skinned people today being Cro-Magnons) is concerned this is not a genetics problem :) It is a physics problem. Genetics only provides one number to be used in this problem. The probability that a baby that is born has albinism. Nothing else from genetics enters this problem. I'm not sure even that one number is known among geneticists. If it exists I'm interested to know what they say it is and how they found it so perhaps I derive it myself one day once more. 30 years ago I made some approximate assumptions and calculated that number based on those assumptions. -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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Organisms pick & choose from the DNA smorgasbord. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-03 21:13 -0700
Re: Organisms pick & choose from the DNA smorgasbord. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 23:37 -0500
Re: Organisms pick & choose from the DNA smorgasbord. Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-10-04 03:38 -0400
Re: Organisms pick & choose from the DNA smorgasbord. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 14:02 -0500
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Re: Organisms pick & choose from the DNA smorgasbord. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 20:19 -0500
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Re: Organisms pick & choose from the DNA smorgasbord. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 21:39 -0500
Re: Organisms pick & choose from the DNA smorgasbord. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 21:35 -0500
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Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 21:46 -0500
Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 11:55 -0600
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TFZ is better then Face-To-Face sex. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-03 09:41 -0700
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Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 18:30 -0500
Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 04:52 +0000
Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-03 11:56 +0100
Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Ayaz Siddiqi <ayaz.s.siddiqi@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 07:16 -0700
Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 10:14 -0500
Re: People like me, who work 30 years on a job, aren't cheating. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 13:33 -0500
The loans-to-deposits ratio is insane, nothing a banker would want. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-03 11:56 -0700
Re: People like me, who work 30 years on a job, aren't cheating. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 19:55 -0600
Re: "Permies" aren't script kiddies. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-02 17:09 +0000
Re: "Permies" aren't script kiddies. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 11:35 -0600
My work got done joyously. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-02 11:28 -0700
Re: My work got done joyously. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:31 +0000
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 20:44 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 09:50 +0100
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 12:55 -0600
Recursion makes good algorithms & bad implementations. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-02 12:15 -0700
Re: Recursion makes good algorithms & bad implementations. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:33 +0000
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 17:35 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 22:08 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 00:12 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-03 11:47 +0100
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 11:49 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 20:02 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 19:47 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 23:50 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-04 07:54 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 00:08 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 05:12 +0000
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 01:51 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 06:56 +0000
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 13:28 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 20:18 +0000
Needle hungry people. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-05 12:01 -0700
Re: Needle hungry people. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-05 20:33 +0000
Re: Needle hungry people. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 15:57 -0500
Re: Needle hungry people. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-10-06 07:05 -0500
Re: Needle hungry people. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-06 11:00 -0500
Re: Needle hungry people. RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-10-06 13:50 -0400
Re: Needle hungry people. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-06 13:12 -0500
Re: Needle hungry people. Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2021-10-06 21:47 -0700
Re: Needle hungry people. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-07 12:02 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-04 07:59 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 13:15 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 15:07 -0700
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 22:11 +0000
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 17:47 -0700
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 20:37 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 18:58 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-09-30 18:26 +0000
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 20:57 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-01 17:43 +0000
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 18:19 +0000
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-01 19:22 +0100
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 18:37 +0000
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 20:16 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 09:44 +0100
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-02 17:09 +0000
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 12:49 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 09:38 -0500
10 instances of my "C/C++ console" running simultaneously. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-09-30 07:51 -0700
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 10:08 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-09-30 11:55 -0400
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 11:23 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-09-30 13:48 -0400
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 16:45 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-09-30 19:11 -0400
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 19:40 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 21:16 -0600
Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-01 01:31 -0700
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 13:31 -0500
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 18:38 +0000
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 20:28 -0600
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-02 02:55 +0000
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 15:14 -0500
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 20:31 +0000
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 16:56 -0500
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 04:50 +0000
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 17:05 -0500
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 22:42 +0000
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 18:05 -0500
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-05 00:18 +0000
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 20:10 -0500
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-05 01:12 +0000
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 22:31 -0500
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-05 03:34 +0000
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 22:54 -0500
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-05 03:57 +0000
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 23:10 -0500
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-05 09:22 +0000
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 12:37 -0500
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-05 20:26 +0000
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-05 20:15 -0600
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 22:22 -0500
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-05 21:47 -0600
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-06 11:02 -0500
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-05 07:54 -0600
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 12:45 -0500
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-05 20:17 -0600
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 22:12 -0500
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-04 20:13 -0600
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-05 02:21 +0000
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-04 21:35 -0600
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-05 03:56 +0000
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 23:53 -0500
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-05 09:23 +0000
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 13:11 -0500
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-05 20:30 +0000
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 16:37 -0500
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-05 21:43 +0000
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 18:35 -0500
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-06 00:07 +0000
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-05 20:24 -0600
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 22:09 -0500
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 20:43 -0600
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 04:57 +0000
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 20:28 -0600
Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 18:13 -0500
You don't have to explain speed to me, Clutterfreak. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-01 16:28 -0700
Re: You don't have to explain speed to me, Clutterfreak. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 17:39 -0500
When the walls fall, the wars start. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-03 17:56 -0700
Two 20 year-olds, sleeping together. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-03 18:51 -0700
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 15:02 -0500
I'm 49 % introvert & 51 % extrovert. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-09-30 17:36 -0700
Re: I'm 49 % introvert & 51 % extrovert. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 19:58 -0500
How is it that Google Groups gets it right ?! Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-09-30 17:17 -0700
Re: How is it that Google Groups gets it right ?! Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 21:02 -0500
Phy_Regs does what _I_ want, not what you want. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-09-30 19:17 -0700
Re: Phy_Regs does what _I_ want, not what you want. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 01:58 -0500
Re: Phy_Regs does what _I_ want, not what you want. Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-10-01 03:23 -0400
Re: Phy_Regs does what _I_ want, not what you want. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 02:59 -0500
Re: Phy_Regs does what _I_ want, not what you want. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 03:09 -0500
Borrowing a "Subject:" line. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-01 01:47 -0700
I created Phy_Regs about 10 years ago, not yesterday. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-01 01:04 -0700
Re: Phy_Regs does what _I_ want, not what you want. Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-10-01 12:22 -0400
Re: How is it that Jeff Relf gets it wrong?! Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-10-01 11:50 -0400
Thunderbird can be made to run "right" ( however you want it ). Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-09-30 08:03 -0700
Re: Thunderbird can be made to run "right" ( however you want it ). Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 10:14 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2021-09-30 10:36 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-09-30 18:25 +0000
FORTH, C & C++, in that order, have advantages. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-09-30 16:16 -0700
Re: FORTH, C & C++, in that order, have advantages. ivan <ivan@mail.ru> - 2021-10-05 14:00 +0200
FORTH is close to the metal & has stood the test of time. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-05 11:02 -0700
Re: FORTH is close to the metal & has stood the test of time. Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none> - 2021-10-05 18:23 +0000
Postfix notation. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-06 09:46 -0700
Re: Postfix notation. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-10-06 12:02 -0500
Re: Postfix notation. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-06 12:57 -0500
BigTech, BigMedia & BigGovernment did it first. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-06 12:40 -0700
Re: BigTech, BigMedia & BigGovernment did it first. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-06 15:27 -0500
Re: BigTech, BigMedia & BigGovernment did it first. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-06 20:26 -0500
Clutterfreak's "mind". Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-06 18:55 -0700
Re: Clutterfreak's "mind". Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-06 21:08 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2021-09-30 19:52 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 21:18 -0600
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