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Re: Organisms pick & choose from the DNA smorgasbord.

From whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: Organisms pick & choose from the DNA smorgasbord.
Date 2021-10-05 13:06 -0500
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On 10/5/2021 10:53 AM, Michael Moroney wrote:
> On 10/4/2021 10:35 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
> 
>>
>> Now regarding genetics, if you are an enthusiast then perhaps one day 
>> we will have a useful discussion about it.
> 
> You'll have to get rid of some incorrect, and seemingly racists, beliefs 
> first.
>>
>> But as far as this problem (transparent skinned people today being 
>> Cro-Magnons)
> 
> That's one of them.  As Cro-Magnons are modern humans, are you using 
> that term for all modern humans?  So that both you and I are Cro-Magnons?
> 
>> is concerned this is not a genetics problem :) It is a physics problem.
> 
> All the stuff like skin color is ultimately genetics.
> 
>> Genetics only provides one number to be used in this problem. The 
>> probability that a baby that is born has albinism. Nothing else from 
>> genetics enters this problem.
> 
> It does, since inherited forms of albinism mean the parents have to be 
> carriers for the gene which causes that.
> 
> It could be a de novo mutation, but that is also genetics. If either 
> parent is not a carrier, this is the only way it can happen.
>>
>> I'm not sure even that one number is known among geneticists.
> 
> If both parents are carriers of a recessive gene, there is a 25% chance 
> a child will inherit it.
> 
> Mutation rates are known to a certain extent, I believe.

Funny thing about logic, it cannot legitimately be separated from any
discipline and still have the discipline reflect the attendant facts.

Still there are participants here that regularly attempt that feat.

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                Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 10:14 -0500
                Re: People like me, who work 30 years on a job, aren't cheating. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 13:33 -0500
                The loans-to-deposits ratio is insane, nothing a banker would want. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-03 11:56 -0700
                Re: People like me, who work 30 years on a job, aren't cheating. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 19:55 -0600
                Re: "Permies" aren't script kiddies. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-02 17:09 +0000
                Re: "Permies" aren't script kiddies. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 11:35 -0600
                My work got done joyously. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 11:28 -0700
                Re: My work got done joyously. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:31 +0000
              Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 20:44 -0600
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 09:50 +0100
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 12:55 -0600
                Recursion makes good algorithms & bad implementations. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 12:15 -0700
                Re: Recursion makes good algorithms & bad implementations. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:33 +0000
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 17:35 -0500
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 22:08 -0600
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 00:12 -0500
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-03 11:47 +0100
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 11:49 -0600
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 20:02 -0500
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 19:47 -0600
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 23:50 -0500
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-04 07:54 -0600
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 00:08 -0500
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 05:12 +0000
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 01:51 -0500
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 06:56 +0000
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 13:28 -0500
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 20:18 +0000
                Needle hungry people. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-05 12:01 -0700
                Re: Needle hungry people. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-05 20:33 +0000
                Re: Needle hungry people. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 15:57 -0500
                Re: Needle hungry people. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-10-06 07:05 -0500
                Re: Needle hungry people. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-06 11:00 -0500
                Re: Needle hungry people. RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-10-06 13:50 -0400
                Re: Needle hungry people. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-06 13:12 -0500
                Re: Needle hungry people. Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2021-10-06 21:47 -0700
                Re: Needle hungry people. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-07 12:02 -0500
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-04 07:59 -0600
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 13:15 -0500
            Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 15:07 -0700
              Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 22:11 +0000
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 17:47 -0700
            Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 20:37 -0600
              Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 18:58 -0500
      Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-09-30 18:26 +0000
        Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 20:57 -0600
        Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-01 17:43 +0000
          Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 18:19 +0000
          Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-01 19:22 +0100
            Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 18:37 +0000
              Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 20:16 -0600
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 09:44 +0100
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-02 17:09 +0000
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 12:49 -0600
    Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 09:38 -0500
      10 instances of my "C/C++ console" running simultaneously. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-09-30 07:51 -0700
        Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 10:08 -0500
          Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-09-30 11:55 -0400
            Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 11:23 -0500
              Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-09-30 13:48 -0400
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 16:45 -0500
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-09-30 19:11 -0400
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 19:40 -0500
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 21:16 -0600
                Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-01 01:31 -0700
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 13:31 -0500
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 18:38 +0000
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 20:28 -0600
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-02 02:55 +0000
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 15:14 -0500
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 20:31 +0000
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 16:56 -0500
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 04:50 +0000
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 17:05 -0500
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 22:42 +0000
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 18:05 -0500
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-05 00:18 +0000
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 20:10 -0500
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-05 01:12 +0000
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 22:31 -0500
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-05 03:34 +0000
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 22:54 -0500
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-05 03:57 +0000
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 23:10 -0500
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-05 09:22 +0000
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 12:37 -0500
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-05 20:26 +0000
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-05 20:15 -0600
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 22:22 -0500
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-05 21:47 -0600
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-06 11:02 -0500
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-05 07:54 -0600
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 12:45 -0500
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-05 20:17 -0600
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 22:12 -0500
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-04 20:13 -0600
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-05 02:21 +0000
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-04 21:35 -0600
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-05 03:56 +0000
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 23:53 -0500
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-05 09:23 +0000
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 13:11 -0500
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-05 20:30 +0000
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 16:37 -0500
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-05 21:43 +0000
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 18:35 -0500
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-06 00:07 +0000
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-05 20:24 -0600
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 22:09 -0500
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 20:43 -0600
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 04:57 +0000
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 20:28 -0600
                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 18:13 -0500
                You don't have to explain speed to me, Clutterfreak. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-01 16:28 -0700
                Re: You don't have to explain speed to me, Clutterfreak. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 17:39 -0500
                When the walls fall, the wars start. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-03 17:56 -0700
                Two 20 year-olds, sleeping together. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-03 18:51 -0700
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 15:02 -0500
                I'm 49 % introvert & 51 % extrovert. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-09-30 17:36 -0700
                Re: I'm 49 % introvert & 51 % extrovert. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 19:58 -0500
            How is it that Google Groups gets it right ?! Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-09-30 17:17 -0700
              Re: How is it that Google Groups gets it right ?! Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 21:02 -0500
                Phy_Regs does what _I_ want, not what you want. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-09-30 19:17 -0700
                Re: Phy_Regs does what _I_ want, not what you want. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 01:58 -0500
                Re: Phy_Regs does what _I_ want, not what you want. Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-10-01 03:23 -0400
                Re: Phy_Regs does what _I_ want, not what you want. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 02:59 -0500
                Re: Phy_Regs does what _I_ want, not what you want. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 03:09 -0500
                Borrowing a "Subject:" line. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-01 01:47 -0700
                I created Phy_Regs about 10 years ago, not yesterday. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-01 01:04 -0700
                Re: Phy_Regs does what _I_ want, not what you want. Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-10-01 12:22 -0400
              Re: How is it that Jeff Relf gets it wrong?! Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-10-01 11:50 -0400
      Thunderbird can be made to run "right" ( however you want it ). Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-09-30 08:03 -0700
        Re: Thunderbird can be made to run "right" ( however you want it ). Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 10:14 -0500
    Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2021-09-30 10:36 -0500
    Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-09-30 18:25 +0000
      FORTH, C & C++, in that order, have advantages. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-09-30 16:16 -0700
        Re: FORTH, C & C++, in that order, have advantages. ivan <ivan@mail.ru> - 2021-10-05 14:00 +0200
          FORTH is close to the metal & has stood the test of time. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-05 11:02 -0700
            Re: FORTH is close to the metal & has stood the test of time. Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none> - 2021-10-05 18:23 +0000
            Postfix notation. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-06 09:46 -0700
              Re: Postfix notation. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-10-06 12:02 -0500
              Re: Postfix notation. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-06 12:57 -0500
                BigTech, BigMedia & BigGovernment did it first. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-06 12:40 -0700
                Re: BigTech, BigMedia & BigGovernment did it first. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-06 15:27 -0500
                Re: BigTech, BigMedia & BigGovernment did it first. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-06 20:26 -0500
                Clutterfreak's "mind". Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-06 18:55 -0700
                Re: Clutterfreak's "mind". Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-06 21:08 -0500
      Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2021-09-30 19:52 -0500
      Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 21:18 -0600

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