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Re: Python Policy

From Ben Finney <ben+debian@benfinney.id.au>
Newsgroups linux.debian.maint.python
Subject Re: Python Policy
Date 2015-10-21 02:20 +0200
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"IOhannes m zmölnig (Debian/GNU)" <umlaeute@debian.org> writes:

> thanks a lot for preparing all this.
>
> On 10/20/2015 10:53 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> > +DPMT requires upstream tarballs; releases cannot be made from upstream git
> > +repositories directly.  This is because PyPI contains upstream tarballs, and
> > +tarballs are what we upload to the Debian archive.
>
> i find the justification a bit weird: "no releases can be made from
> upstream git because some upstreams use tarballs"?

Yes, that is weird, and it's not what you quoted. I don't know how you
get that meaning from the text you quoted:

    This is because PyPI contains upstream tarballs, and tarballs are
    what we upload to the Debian archive.

> in any case, i don't think that there is actually a need for the
> policy to justify the decision to require tarballs (let's put that in
> the wiki for those interested).

On the contrary, I think the Policy document should document the
rationale for contingent decisions like this. When it is inevitably
discussed again in the future, it is always better to know the intent of
the authors.

-- 
 \          “Our products just aren't engineered for security.” —Brian |
  `\             Valentine, senior vice-president of Microsoft Windows |
_o__)                                                development, 2002 |
Ben Finney

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Python Policy Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2015-10-19 19:40 +0200
  Re: Python Policy Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2015-10-19 20:50 +0200
  Re: Python Policy Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2015-10-19 21:10 +0200
    Re: Python Policy Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2015-10-19 21:30 +0200
      Re: Python Policy Ben Finney <ben+debian@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-10-19 21:40 +0200
        Re: Python Policy Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2015-10-19 21:50 +0200
    Re: Python Policy Brian May <bam@debian.org> - 2015-10-20 00:30 +0200
      Re: Python Policy Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2015-10-20 00:40 +0200
        Re: Python Policy Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2015-10-20 16:50 +0200
          Re: Python Policy Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2015-10-20 17:10 +0200
    Re: Python Policy Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2015-10-20 16:40 +0200
      Re: Python Policy Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2015-10-20 17:00 +0200
  Re: Python Policy Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2015-10-19 23:30 +0200
    Re: Python Policy Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2015-10-20 16:30 +0200
      Re: Python Policy Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2015-10-20 17:20 +0200
        Re: Python Policy Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2015-10-20 22:20 +0200
    Re: Python Policy Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2015-10-20 23:00 +0200
      Re: Python Policy IOhannes m zmölnig (Debian/GNU)  <umlaeute@debian.org> - 2015-10-20 23:10 +0200
        Re: Python Policy Ben Finney <ben+debian@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-10-21 02:20 +0200
          Re: Python Policy Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2015-10-21 02:50 +0200
          Re: Python Policy IOhannes m zmölnig (Debian/GNU)  <umlaeute@debian.org> - 2015-10-21 10:00 +0200
            Re: Python Policy Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2015-10-21 16:00 +0200
              Re: Python Policy IOhannes m zmölnig (Debian/GNU)  <umlaeute@debian.org> - 2015-10-22 11:30 +0200
                Re: DPMT Policy Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2015-10-22 11:40 +0200
                Re: DPMT Policy IOhannes m zmölnig (Debian/GNU)  <umlaeute@debian.org> - 2015-10-22 12:30 +0200
      Re: Python Policy Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2015-10-20 23:40 +0200
        Re: Python Policy Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2015-10-21 03:00 +0200
          Re: Python Policy Vincent Bernat <bernat@debian.org> - 2015-10-21 10:40 +0200
            Re: Python Policy Brian May <brian@microcomaustralia.com.au> - 2015-10-21 11:50 +0200
              PyPI wheels (was Re: Python Policy) Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2015-10-21 16:00 +0200
                Re: PyPI wheels (was Re: Python Policy) Ian Cordasco <graffatcolmingov@gmail.com> - 2015-10-21 16:50 +0200
                Re: PyPI wheels (was Re: Python Policy) Jeremy Stanley <fungi@yuggoth.org> - 2015-10-21 17:50 +0200
            Re: Python Policy Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2015-10-21 15:50 +0200
          Re: DPMT Policy Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2015-10-21 14:10 +0200
            Re: DPMT Policy Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2015-10-21 15:50 +0200
              Re: DPMT Policy Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2015-10-21 16:20 +0200
                Re: DPMT Policy Ben Finney <ben+debian@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-10-21 23:40 +0200
                Re: DPMT Policy Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2015-10-22 01:00 +0200
      Re: Python Policy IOhannes m zmölnig (Debian/GNU)  <umlaeute@debian.org> - 2015-10-22 11:20 +0200
        Re: Python Policy Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2015-10-23 01:40 +0200
      Re: Python Policy IOhannes m zmölnig (Debian/GNU)  <umlaeute@debian.org> - 2015-10-22 11:20 +0200
        Re: Python Policy Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2015-10-23 01:40 +0200
  Re: DPMT Policy Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2015-10-20 00:00 +0200
    Re: DPMT Policy Brian May <bam@debian.org> - 2015-10-20 00:30 +0200
    Re: DPMT Policy Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2015-10-20 16:10 +0200
      Re: DPMT Policy Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2015-10-20 17:10 +0200
        Re: DPMT Policy Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2015-10-20 23:40 +0200
  Re: Python Policy Brian May <bam@debian.org> - 2015-10-20 00:00 +0200

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