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Re: USB Hard drive for recording

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On 30/05/2018 03:21, Johnny B Good wrote:
> On Tue, 29 May 2018 22:45:54 +0100, Indy Jess John wrote:
> 
>> On 29/05/2018 21:08, AnthonyL wrote:
>>> My new telly, LG49uj670v, allows recording to a USB stick, but if I
>>> want pause, catch-up facilities I need a USB drive, apparently a
>>> minimum of 40Gb but I'm thinking of bigger than that anyway.
>>>
>>> I'd prefer a drive that is powered by the TV's USB port just for
>>> simplicity.
>>>
>>> Any recommendations?
>>>
>> I have got a Toshiba 500Gb USB-powered portable drive connected to my
>> (different model of) LG TV.
>>
>> There are a couple of things to bear in mind:
>> - You have to let the TV format the drive before it will record on it.
>> Once formatted and with a recording on it, a Windows PC can't read it at
>> all; a Linux laptop will give a file list of what is on the disc, but I
>> haven't managed to find anything among the Linux utilities that can
>> understand what is in the files it lists; nor are the file names
>> obviously meaningful.  Effectively, if the TV records on the drive only
>> the TV can play them back.
>>
>> - The playback isn't always as smooth as you get from a PVR, at least on
>> my TV.  You get occasional millisecond pauses, suggesting that when the
>> TV processor is doing other things it steals a few processing cycles
>> from the disc handling; or else it doesn't buffer ahead so I see a very
>> short pause as it navigates the logical join between physical files.  It
>> remains watchable, but I do notice it.
>>
>   That's the weakness of USB2 on kit that isn't using the almighty
> processing power of an Intel CPU to deal with the cpu cycle intensive PIO
> mode of an interface standard that was designed to upsell more powerful
> Intel CPUs. When you have most of the video signal processing offloaded
> onto dedicated hardware, you don't need very much by way of "CPU Grunt"
> in your Smart TV (or set top box).
> 
>   You just might be able to eliminate the problem by using an SSD based USB
> drive in place of that Toshiba laptop class HDD.
> 

Or buy a cheap Humax PVR from humaxdirect, and it will do the job
properly  :-)

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USB Hard drive for recording nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) - 2018-05-29 20:08 +0000
  Re: USB Hard drive for recording Indy Jess John <jimwarren@OMITblueyonder.co.uk> - 2018-05-29 22:45 +0100
    Re: USB Hard drive for recording Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2018-05-30 02:21 +0000
      Re: USB Hard drive for recording Indy Jess John <jimwarren@OMITblueyonder.co.uk> - 2018-05-30 07:48 +0100
      Re: USB Hard drive for recording nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) - 2018-05-30 11:37 +0000
        Re: USB Hard drive for recording The Other John <nomail@here.org> - 2018-05-30 12:07 +0000
          Re: USB Hard drive for recording Indy Jess John <jimwarren@OMITblueyonder.co.uk> - 2018-05-30 13:34 +0100
            Re: USB Hard drive for recording "tim..." <tims_new_home@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-30 15:41 +0100
            Re: USB Hard drive for recording Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2018-05-30 14:42 +0000
              Re: USB Hard drive for recording "R. Mark Clayton" <notyalckram@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 07:55 -0700
              Re: USB Hard drive for recording "tim..." <tims_new_home@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-30 17:21 +0100
                Re: USB Hard drive for recording Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2018-05-31 00:55 +0000
                Re: USB Hard drive for recording Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2018-05-31 21:34 +0100
        Re: USB Hard drive for recording "R. Mark Clayton" <notyalckram@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 05:45 -0700
          Re: USB Hard drive for recording nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) - 2018-05-30 15:41 +0000
            Re: USB Hard drive for recording nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) - 2018-05-30 16:01 +0000
              Re: USB Hard drive for recording nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) - 2018-06-02 09:20 +0000
                Re: USB Hard drive for recording Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2018-06-02 14:46 +0100
                Re: USB Hard drive for recording nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) - 2018-06-02 21:26 +0000
                Re: USB Hard drive for recording Martin <me@address.invalid> - 2018-06-02 15:49 +0200
      Re: USB Hard drive for recording Andrew <Andrew97d-junk@mybtinternet.com> - 2018-05-30 14:01 +0100
        Re: USB Hard drive for recording "tim..." <tims_new_home@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-30 15:42 +0100
          Re: USB Hard drive for recording nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) - 2018-05-31 11:30 +0000
            Re: USB Hard drive for recording "tim..." <tims_new_home@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-01 14:51 +0100
              Re: USB Hard drive for recording nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) - 2018-06-02 09:14 +0000
                Re: USB Hard drive for recording Norman Wells <hex@unseen.ac.am> - 2018-06-02 10:19 +0100
                Re: USB Hard drive for recording nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) - 2018-06-02 10:29 +0000
        Re: USB Hard drive for recording nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) - 2018-05-30 15:43 +0000
    Re: USB Hard drive for recording Jim Lesurf <noise@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2018-05-30 09:49 +0100
      Re: USB Hard drive for recording "NY" <me@privacy.net> - 2018-05-30 12:28 +0100
      Re: USB Hard drive for recording nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) - 2018-05-30 11:30 +0000
  Re: USB Hard drive for recording "Brian Gaff" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2018-05-30 11:35 +0100
    Re: USB Hard drive for recording Robin <rbw0@hotmail.com> - 2018-05-30 12:00 +0100
    Re: USB Hard drive for recording nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) - 2018-05-30 11:33 +0000
      Re: USB Hard drive for recording "NY" <me@privacy.net> - 2018-05-30 12:55 +0100
        Re: USB Hard drive for recording nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) - 2018-05-30 15:45 +0000
      Re: USB Hard drive for recording "tim..." <tims_new_home@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-30 15:37 +0100
        Re: USB Hard drive for recording Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2018-05-31 21:30 +0100
          Re: USB Hard drive for recording Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-06-01 11:13 +0100
          Re: USB Hard drive for recording "tim..." <tims_new_home@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-01 14:54 +0100
          Re: USB Hard drive for recording richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2018-06-01 14:10 +0000
            Re: USB Hard drive for recording Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> - 2018-06-02 01:30 +0100
  Re: USB Hard drive for recording "R. Mark Clayton" <notyalckram@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 05:40 -0700
    Re: USB Hard drive for recording nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) - 2018-05-30 15:47 +0000
    Re: USB Hard drive for recording JNugent <Jenningsltd@fastmail.fm> - 2018-05-31 02:22 +0100
      Re: USB Hard drive for recording Andrew <Andrew97d-junk@mybtinternet.com> - 2018-05-31 17:07 +0100
        Re: USB Hard drive for recording JNugent <Jenningsltd@fastmail.fm> - 2018-06-01 00:32 +0100

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