Re: USB Hard drive for recording

From	nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL)
Newsgroups	uk.tech.digital-tv
Subject	Re: USB Hard drive for recording
Date	2018-05-30 15:41 +0000
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On Wed, 30 May 2018 05:45:53 -0700 (PDT), "R. Mark Clayton"
<notyalckram@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, 30 May 2018 12:37:55 UTC+1, AnthonyL  wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 May 2018 02:21:09 GMT, Johnny B Good
>> <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> 
>> >On Tue, 29 May 2018 22:45:54 +0100, Indy Jess John wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 29/05/2018 21:08, AnthonyL wrote:
>> >>> My new telly, LG49uj670v, allows recording to a USB stick, but if I
>> >>> want pause, catch-up facilities I need a USB drive, apparently a
>> >>> minimum of 40Gb but I'm thinking of bigger than that anyway.
>> >>>
>> >>> I'd prefer a drive that is powered by the TV's USB port just for
>> >>> simplicity.
>> >>>
>> >>> Any recommendations?
>> >>>
>> >> I have got a Toshiba 500Gb USB-powered portable drive connected to my
>> >> (different model of) LG TV.
>> >> 
>> >> There are a couple of things to bear in mind:
>> >> - You have to let the TV format the drive before it will record on it.
>> >> Once formatted and with a recording on it, a Windows PC can't read it at
>> >> all; a Linux laptop will give a file list of what is on the disc, but I
>> >> haven't managed to find anything among the Linux utilities that can
>> >> understand what is in the files it lists; nor are the file names
>> >> obviously meaningful.  Effectively, if the TV records on the drive only
>> >> the TV can play them back.
>> >> 
>> >> - The playback isn't always as smooth as you get from a PVR, at least on
>> >> my TV.  You get occasional millisecond pauses, suggesting that when the
>> >> TV processor is doing other things it steals a few processing cycles
>> >> from the disc handling; or else it doesn't buffer ahead so I see a very
>> >> short pause as it navigates the logical join between physical files.  It
>> >> remains watchable, but I do notice it.
>> >> 
>> > That's the weakness of USB2 on kit that isn't using the almighty 
>> >processing power of an Intel CPU to deal with the cpu cycle intensive PIO 
>> >mode of an interface standard that was designed to upsell more powerful 
>> >Intel CPUs. When you have most of the video signal processing offloaded 
>> >onto dedicated hardware, you don't need very much by way of "CPU Grunt" 
>> >in your Smart TV (or set top box).
>> >
>> 
>> Annoyingly I cannot find anything that clarifies whether the set is
>> USB 2 or 3 and so don't know if there's any advantage in paying a bit
>> more for USB 3.0.
>
>Yes, but the limiting factor here is the speed of the drive, not the interface.  USB 3 drive should work.  Buy a small one (~32Gb) for a tenner to try it out.
>

As stated above 40Gb is the minimum size recommended/specified.  

There's a USB 3.0 250Gb for Ł25 at
https://www.mymemory.co.uk/sonnics-250gb-2-5-usb-3-0-portable-external-hard-drive-red.html

and a larger, 320Gb but cheaper USB 2.0 for Ł24 
https://www.mymemory.co.uk/sonnics-320gb-2-5-portable-external-hard-drive-blue.html




-- 
AnthonyL

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USB Hard drive for recording nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) - 2018-05-29 20:08 +0000
  Re: USB Hard drive for recording Indy Jess John <jimwarren@OMITblueyonder.co.uk> - 2018-05-29 22:45 +0100
    Re: USB Hard drive for recording Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2018-05-30 02:21 +0000
      Re: USB Hard drive for recording Indy Jess John <jimwarren@OMITblueyonder.co.uk> - 2018-05-30 07:48 +0100
      Re: USB Hard drive for recording nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) - 2018-05-30 11:37 +0000
        Re: USB Hard drive for recording The Other John <nomail@here.org> - 2018-05-30 12:07 +0000
          Re: USB Hard drive for recording Indy Jess John <jimwarren@OMITblueyonder.co.uk> - 2018-05-30 13:34 +0100
            Re: USB Hard drive for recording "tim..." <tims_new_home@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-30 15:41 +0100
            Re: USB Hard drive for recording Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2018-05-30 14:42 +0000
              Re: USB Hard drive for recording "R. Mark Clayton" <notyalckram@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 07:55 -0700
              Re: USB Hard drive for recording "tim..." <tims_new_home@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-30 17:21 +0100
                Re: USB Hard drive for recording Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2018-05-31 00:55 +0000
                Re: USB Hard drive for recording Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2018-05-31 21:34 +0100
        Re: USB Hard drive for recording "R. Mark Clayton" <notyalckram@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 05:45 -0700
          Re: USB Hard drive for recording nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) - 2018-05-30 15:41 +0000
            Re: USB Hard drive for recording nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) - 2018-05-30 16:01 +0000
              Re: USB Hard drive for recording nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) - 2018-06-02 09:20 +0000
                Re: USB Hard drive for recording Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2018-06-02 14:46 +0100
                Re: USB Hard drive for recording nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) - 2018-06-02 21:26 +0000
                Re: USB Hard drive for recording Martin <me@address.invalid> - 2018-06-02 15:49 +0200
      Re: USB Hard drive for recording Andrew <Andrew97d-junk@mybtinternet.com> - 2018-05-30 14:01 +0100
        Re: USB Hard drive for recording "tim..." <tims_new_home@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-30 15:42 +0100
          Re: USB Hard drive for recording nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) - 2018-05-31 11:30 +0000
            Re: USB Hard drive for recording "tim..." <tims_new_home@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-01 14:51 +0100
              Re: USB Hard drive for recording nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) - 2018-06-02 09:14 +0000
                Re: USB Hard drive for recording Norman Wells <hex@unseen.ac.am> - 2018-06-02 10:19 +0100
                Re: USB Hard drive for recording nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) - 2018-06-02 10:29 +0000
        Re: USB Hard drive for recording nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) - 2018-05-30 15:43 +0000
    Re: USB Hard drive for recording Jim Lesurf <noise@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2018-05-30 09:49 +0100
      Re: USB Hard drive for recording "NY" <me@privacy.net> - 2018-05-30 12:28 +0100
      Re: USB Hard drive for recording nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) - 2018-05-30 11:30 +0000
  Re: USB Hard drive for recording "Brian Gaff" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2018-05-30 11:35 +0100
    Re: USB Hard drive for recording Robin <rbw0@hotmail.com> - 2018-05-30 12:00 +0100
    Re: USB Hard drive for recording nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) - 2018-05-30 11:33 +0000
      Re: USB Hard drive for recording "NY" <me@privacy.net> - 2018-05-30 12:55 +0100
        Re: USB Hard drive for recording nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) - 2018-05-30 15:45 +0000
      Re: USB Hard drive for recording "tim..." <tims_new_home@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-30 15:37 +0100
        Re: USB Hard drive for recording Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2018-05-31 21:30 +0100
          Re: USB Hard drive for recording Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-06-01 11:13 +0100
          Re: USB Hard drive for recording "tim..." <tims_new_home@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-01 14:54 +0100
          Re: USB Hard drive for recording richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2018-06-01 14:10 +0000
            Re: USB Hard drive for recording Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> - 2018-06-02 01:30 +0100
  Re: USB Hard drive for recording "R. Mark Clayton" <notyalckram@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 05:40 -0700
    Re: USB Hard drive for recording nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) - 2018-05-30 15:47 +0000
    Re: USB Hard drive for recording JNugent <Jenningsltd@fastmail.fm> - 2018-05-31 02:22 +0100
      Re: USB Hard drive for recording Andrew <Andrew97d-junk@mybtinternet.com> - 2018-05-31 17:07 +0100
        Re: USB Hard drive for recording JNugent <Jenningsltd@fastmail.fm> - 2018-06-01 00:32 +0100

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