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Re: CPU design

From "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.unix.geeks, comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: CPU design
Date 2026-04-05 13:58 +0200
Message-ID <pcv9amxjin.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> (permalink)
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On 2026-04-05 05:44, Rich wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.misc Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2026-04-04 19:57, c186282 wrote:
>>> On 4/4/26 07:20, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> On 2026-04-03 22:29, c186282 wrote:
>>>>> On 4/3/26 16:00, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>>> On 2026-04-03 20:47, c186282 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Also tried to look up the "how to" for CPU operation.
>>>>>>>     Endless pages of stuff - but all 'higher level' stuff,
>>>>>>>     nothing at the base wiring level - explanations rather
>>>>>>>     than construction schematics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because that is another step. Possibly even different people.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Didn't find any, even going four or five
>>>>>     pages in and trying to customize the search
>>>>>     params a few times.
>>>>>
>>>>>     The info is there SOMEWHERE ... but WHERE ???
>>>>>
>>>>>     Or do they want you to buy a $150 book ?
>>>>
>>>> Possibly. What I learned was in an UNI course, it was not in a book.
>>>> In fact, I think they used an imaginary CPU that does not exist, so no
>>>> books at all except class notes. I don't remember if there was some
>>>> self published book (photocopied).
>>>
>>>     Someone who CAN should put together a simple
>>>     animation ... show those registers loading
>>>     at the bit level, the mem fetch, the decode,
>>>     the data store, what's wired to what with a
>>>     few-sentence comment for each stage. A 4-bit
>>>     example would be clearer.
>>>
>>>     Sometime, maybe soon, humans won't know how
>>>     to do this stuff anymore - it'll all be the
>>>     AIs ... and then it all becomes 'magic'.
>>>
>>>     Interesting eh ... we only pulled ourselves out
>>>     of a Magical Universe a few hundred years ago
>>>     and now we're headed back  :-)
>>>
>>>     What IS the proper sacrifice to the Regional
>>>     Utility Manager AI ?
>>>
>>
>> I posted a link to an schematic of the 6502, showing all transistors. I
>> haven't looked if that guy has created more drawings.
>>
>> Yes, a simulation would be nice.
> 
> For the 6502 there is a transistor level simulation available:
> <http://visual6502.org/>.

Wow :-)

> 
>> Yet I assume that there are university courses teaching how to design a CPU.
> 
> There are (or, well, were when I was in Uni, I presume a similar course
> is still available).


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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