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Re: Smokers are smarter, I say.

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On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 19:07:00 +0100, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

> On 4/28/17, 9:51 AM, in article op.yzezrwg0js98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson
> Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> Would love to see a link showing one for a price not too much more than a
>>>>> hard drive of that size.
>>>>
>>>> I didn't say it was the same price as a hard disk, I said it was a feasible
>>>> price.  Since it's a hell of a lot faster, it's worth paying a bit extra.
>>>> 1TB
>>>> of SSD is about £220.  1TB of hard disk is about £45.  So only £175 for a
>>>> HUGE
>>>> speed increase.
>>>
>>> It is close to 5x the price. I am not denying the benefit but there is quite
>>> a difference there.
>>
>> 5x is a big difference if it was the total price, but it's only one component.
>
> It is the total price of the component we are talking about.

No, we're considering someone buying a whole computer with or without an SSD.

> But, sure, as I
> have said I wish Apple would move to better drives. And a better file system
> for that matter. I have been saying that for years. With APFS they are
> finally getting the better file system -- but even with that it is new and I
> am sure still needs maturing.

Didn't Apple change around the same time as Windows went from FAT to NTFS?

>> You need to look at the cost compared to the whole machine.  And consider that
>> a cheaper machine would have a smaller SSD so wouldn't be so much price
>> difference.
>
> I agree Apple should include better drives. It is absurd to sell an iMac
> with a 5400 RPM drive in it.
>
>> I don't know anyone who would buy a new machine nowadays with no SSD in it,
>> it's like night and day.
>
> Even a Fusion drive would make sense for most... closer to the cost of the
> hard drive and most of the benefits of the SSD (though if you are like me
> and use a lot of VMs and the like you will run into issues).

I have a lot of stuff stored on my computer.  I have an SSD and a hard disk.  I use the SSD for most things and the hard disk for storing huge data files.

Well it's two of each actually as they're mirrored.  I hate hard disk failures.  Also makes upgrading easy.  Simply pull out one of them (even with the computer running) and stick in a bigger one.  Wait for it to duplicate the data, then do the same with the other one.  Then instruct the driver to expand the partition to fill the now larger drives.

>> You're just slowing down the rest of the computer by a HUGE factor.  You're
>> better paying more to get an SSD and having a slower something else like the
>> CPU to make the total price the same.  Same goes for people who scrimp on RAM
>> size.
>
> Overall I agree... I would be happier with a slower CPU and the faster
> drive.

This needs to be noted in the history books, we are in agreement.

-- 
A midget fortune-teller who escapes from prison is a small medium at large.

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Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-27 23:51 +0100
  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-27 16:06 -0700
    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-28 00:57 +0100
      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-27 17:23 -0700
        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-28 14:12 +0100
          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-28 09:47 -0700
            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-28 17:51 +0100
              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-28 11:07 -0700
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-28 19:37 +0100
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-28 12:19 -0700
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-28 20:44 +0100
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-28 12:56 -0700
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-28 21:18 +0100
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-28 14:19 -0700

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