Re: Tv reception

From	"~misfit~" <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	aus.electronics
Subject	Re: Tv reception
Date	2017-02-13 00:49 +1300
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Once upon a time on usenet Petzl wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 16:24:41 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Petzl wrote:
>>> On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 03:26:22 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:t6ct9cpp7supofj6ugb227d53odeifsjrn@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 17:22:54 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:mf5t9c5ve50tt3a2qhq1ruf6jso0da9gv8@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 12:58:07 +1100, F Murtz
>>>>>>> <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Petzl wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 22:42:54 +1100, F Murtz
>>>>>>>>> <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:efuu0vF3a44U1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:58996add$0$41923$c3e8da3$3a1a2348@news.astraweb.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> F Murtz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Benderthe.evilrobot wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:5895cdf7$0$4415$b1db1813$145976f0@news.astraweb.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For months I have been having problems with tv
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reception TV not working on most channels for hours, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have been blaming 4g towers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fixed wireless towers etc that have just been put up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have just found the cause by accident, almost
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unbelievable. TV does not work if the kitchen light is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The culprit is one of these, a 12" or so multiple led
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ceiling LED
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> similar to this,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    http://imgur.com/a/dj5ha
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With a metal cased unit you can get away with a ferrite
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collar on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supply lead.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have to go inside - you can get split ferrite
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clamp on collars
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that can be fitted without lifting any wires, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smaller sizes you're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> likely to want are harder to find.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When the temp in the roof gets below the high fourties I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might shift
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coax that must be passing near,and or try ferrite.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just looked in roof, coax goes nowhere near light so
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ferrite at fitting next, who knows where next if that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> does not work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Get a better LED light and get it from somewhere like
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bunnings or Kmart
>>>>>>>>>>>> or Amazon so you can return it if its just as bad as the
>>>>>>>>>>>> one you already have.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Or Aldi.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> appear to have fixed it, clip on ferrite mains side of
>>>>>>>>>> electronic transformer and one turn in a donut on the 12
>>>>>>>>>> volt side.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It is a recessed flat 200 mm dia 25 watt led.(fairly bright)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tv now works, it was a combination of signal and
>>>>>>>>>> interference because on
>>>>>>>>>> rare occasions the signal was strong enough to overcome the
>>>>>>>>>> interference
>>>>>>>>>> for a short time
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Could be coincidence and just now getting good reception.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Absolutely no chance, without the ferite lights on, tv picture
>>>>>>>> off lights off, tv picture on except extremely rare occasion
>>>>>>>> very conclusive over many many months even though I only
>>>>>>>> recently discovered reason, since ferrite absolutely no hickups
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good luck
>>>>>>> So your aerial is analogue?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is no such thing as a digital aerial for TV in this
>>>>>> country.
>>>>
>>>>> OK Digital Antennas
>>>>
>>>> There is no such thing as a digital antenna for TV in this country.
>>>>
>>>>> But the local Antenna installers advertise "digital aerial"
>>>>> instalation.
>>>>
>>>> Just more sales bullshit. Yes it's a better antenna than your
>>>> previous one, but there is nothing digital about it, its just as
>>>> analog as the old one.
>>>
>>> OK a recieving Digital Antennas!
>>> F Murtz should able to see what signal he gets on his TV mines 9 out
>>> of 10. the old was 3-4 out of 10
>>>
>> What are you measuring it with?
>
> The TV's themselves have a signal strenght reading
> just push "info" on TV remote controler

Some do and they vary as to scale and implimentation. Sure tha flash ones 
have all of the gee-gaws but lesser TVs not so much.
-- 
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy 
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

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      Re: Tv reception F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-07 17:36 +1100
        Re: Tv reception Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 17:56 +1100
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            Re: Tv reception Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-08 00:07 +1100
        Re: Tv reception "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 08:54 +1100
          Re: Tv reception "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 08:55 +1100
            Re: Tv reception F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-10 22:42 +1100
              Re: Tv reception Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-11 09:21 +1100
                Re: Tv reception F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-11 12:58 +1100
                Re: Tv reception Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-11 15:42 +1100
                Re: Tv reception F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-11 16:45 +1100
                Re: Tv reception Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-11 17:26 +1100
                Re: Tv reception Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2017-02-10 21:49 -0800
                Re: Tv reception "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-02-11 17:22 +1100
                Re: Tv reception Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-11 17:37 +1100
                Re: Tv reception Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2017-02-10 23:18 -0800
                Re: Tv reception "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 03:26 +1100
                Re: Tv reception Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 09:54 +1100
                Re: Tv reception "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 12:57 +1100
                Re: Tv reception F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-12 16:16 +1100
                Re: Tv reception F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-12 16:24 +1100
                Re: Tv reception Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 17:39 +1100
                Re: Tv reception "~misfit~" <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 00:49 +1300
                Re: Tv reception F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-13 01:59 +1100
                Re: Tv reception "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 07:22 +1100
                Re: Tv reception F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-13 13:31 +1100
                Re: Tv reception Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 14:58 +1100
                Re: Tv reception F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-13 15:29 +1100
                Re: Tv reception Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 17:30 +1100
                Re: Tv reception F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-14 20:33 +1100
                Re: Tv reception Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 21:25 +1100
                Re: Tv reception "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 05:44 +1100
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                Re: Tv reception Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 13:04 +1100

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