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Re: Tv reception

From "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups aus.electronics, aus.computers
Subject Re: Tv reception
Date 2017-02-07 10:23 +1100
Message-ID <efser6Fic0lU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
References (3 earlier) <sfMlA.195747$yv3.192638@fx30.am4> <efphvdFdimU1@mid.individual.net> <eo4mA.23709$8K.5710@fx46.am4> <efs442Fg7ciU1@mid.individual.net> <wH5mA.248894$dT1.27701@fx16.am4>

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"Benderthe.evilrobot" <Benderthe.evilrobot@virginmedia.com> wrote in message 
news:wH5mA.248894$dT1.27701@fx16.am4...
>
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message 
> news:efs442Fg7ciU1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>>
>> "Benderthe.evilrobot" <Benderthe.evilrobot@virginmedia.com> wrote in 
>> message news:eo4mA.23709$8K.5710@fx46.am4...
>>>
>>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>>> news:efphvdFdimU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Benderthe.evilrobot" <Benderthe.evilrobot@virginmedia.com> wrote in 
>>>> message news:sfMlA.195747$yv3.192638@fx30.am4...
>>>>>
>>>>> "F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
>>>>> news:5895e20f$0$55943$b1db1813$65575428@news.astraweb.com...
>>>>>> Lucifer Morningstar wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 4 Feb 2017 23:49:55 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For months I have been having problems with tv reception TV not 
>>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>>> on most channels for hours, I have been blaming 4g towers, fixed
>>>>>>>> wireless towers etc that have just been put up etc.
>>>>>>>> I have just found the cause by accident, almost unbelievable.
>>>>>>>> TV does not work if the kitchen light is on.
>>>>>>>> The culprit is one of these, a 12" or so multiple led ceiling  LED
>>>>>>>> similar to this,
>>>>>>>>   http://imgur.com/a/dj5ha
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My electric fence was interfering with my TV reception.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I had an electric fence that would be one of the first suspects 
>>>>>> but who would think turning a light on would cause it,
>>>>>
>>>>> Its been a possible problem with CFLs for years.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some of the LED replacement bulbs use a wattless dropper instead of 
>>>>> SMPSU circuitry. You might be able to adapt it, but don't forget to 
>>>>> include a surge limiting resistor - the current is very high around 
>>>>> the zero crossing portion of the AC waveform.
>>>>
>>>> That's mad, the current will be very low around the zero crossing of 
>>>> the AC waveform.
>>>
>>> Three words - "rate of change".
>>
>> It has nothing to do with rate of change, the voltage by definition
>> is close to zero, so the current is in fact very low. Ohms law.
>
> Geez - and I thought I wasn't great at AC theory..........................

> A coupling capacitor (wattless dropper) blocks DC, the AC waveform is 
> almost that at the peaks. The capacitor only passes a rate of change - 
> that's at its greatest around the zero crossing points.

Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage.
 

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Tv reception F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-04 23:49 +1100
  Re: Tv reception Lucifer Morningstar <Barry@saymyname.com> - 2017-02-05 00:08 +1100
    Re: Tv reception F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-05 01:15 +1100
      Re: Tv reception "Max" <max@val.morgan> - 2017-02-05 07:34 +1100
        Re: Tv reception "~misfit~" <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 14:09 +1300
        Re: Tv reception F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-05 13:45 +1100
      Re: Tv reception Lucifer Morningstar <Barry@saymyname.com> - 2017-02-05 08:50 +1100
        Re: Tv reception "Benderthe.evilrobot" <Benderthe.evilrobot@virginmedia.com> - 2017-02-05 20:54 +0000
      Re: Tv reception "Benderthe.evilrobot" <Benderthe.evilrobot@virginmedia.com> - 2017-02-05 20:51 +0000
        Re: Tv reception "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 07:58 +1100
          Re: Tv reception "Benderthe.evilrobot" <Benderthe.evilrobot@virginmedia.com> - 2017-02-06 19:46 +0000
            Re: Tv reception "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 07:20 +1100
              Re: Tv reception "Benderthe.evilrobot" <Benderthe.evilrobot@virginmedia.com> - 2017-02-06 21:15 +0000
                Re: Tv reception Tony <nomail@nospam.com> - 2017-02-07 06:53 +0800
                Re: Tv reception "Benderthe.evilrobot" <Benderthe.evilrobot@virginmedia.com> - 2017-02-07 19:42 +0000
                Re: Tv reception Tony <nomail@nospam.com> - 2017-02-08 08:24 +0800
                Re: Tv reception "Benderthe.evilrobot" <Benderthe.evilrobot@virginmedia.com> - 2017-02-08 19:18 +0000
                Re: Tv reception Tony <nomail@nospam.com> - 2017-02-09 06:12 +0800
                Re: Tv reception "Benderthe.evilrobot" <Benderthe.evilrobot@virginmedia.com> - 2017-02-09 21:51 +0000
                Re: Tv reception Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-10 11:41 +1100
                Re: Tv reception "Benderthe.evilrobot" <Benderthe.evilrobot@virginmedia.com> - 2017-02-10 19:49 +0000
                Re: Tv reception "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-02-11 07:58 +1100
                Re: Tv reception "Benderthe.evilrobot" <Benderthe.evilrobot@virginmedia.com> - 2017-02-10 21:19 +0000
                Re: Tv reception "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-02-11 12:52 +1100
                Re: Tv reception "Benderthe.evilrobot" <Benderthe.evilrobot@virginmedia.com> - 2017-02-11 18:52 +0000
                Re: Tv reception "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 08:28 +1100
                Re: Tv reception Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-11 09:18 +1100
                Re: Tv reception Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-11 09:17 +1100
                Re: Tv reception "Benderthe.evilrobot" <Benderthe.evilrobot@virginmedia.com> - 2017-02-11 18:53 +0000
                Re: Tv reception "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 10:23 +1100
                Re: Tv reception "Benderthe.evilrobot" <Benderthe.evilrobot@virginmedia.com> - 2017-02-07 19:44 +0000
                Re: Tv reception "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 13:51 +1100
                Re: Tv reception "Benderthe.evilrobot" <Benderthe.evilrobot@virginmedia.com> - 2017-02-08 19:20 +0000
                Re: Tv reception "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 06:43 +1100
                Re: Tv reception "Benderthe.evilrobot" <Benderthe.evilrobot@virginmedia.com> - 2017-02-08 21:37 +0000
                Re: Tv reception "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 08:53 +1100
                Re: Tv reception "Benderthe.evilrobot" <Benderthe.evilrobot@virginmedia.com> - 2017-02-08 22:05 +0000
                Re: Tv reception "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 10:55 +1100
        Re: Tv reception Tony <nomail@nospam.com> - 2017-02-06 11:26 +0800
    Re: Tv reception "Blue Peeler" <woof@barque.org> - 2017-02-04 21:45 +0000
      Re: Tv reception "Benderthe.evilrobot" <Benderthe.evilrobot@virginmedia.com> - 2017-02-05 20:56 +0000
        Re: Tv reception F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-06 10:06 +1100
          Re: Tv reception Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2017-02-06 02:36 +0000
            Re: Tv reception F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-06 22:59 +1100
            Re: Tv reception "Benderthe.evilrobot" <Benderthe.evilrobot@virginmedia.com> - 2017-02-06 19:50 +0000
  Re: Tv reception "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 06:11 +1100
    Re: Tv reception Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 12:57 +1100
      Re: Tv reception F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-05 13:49 +1100
        Re: Tv reception Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 14:24 +1100
  Re: Tv reception "Blue Peeler" <woof@barque.org> - 2017-02-04 21:44 +0000
  Re: Tv reception Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2017-02-05 08:48 +1100
  Re: Tv reception not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-02-04 22:21 +0000
    Re: Tv reception Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2017-02-05 09:44 +1100
      Re: Tv reception not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-02-05 00:00 +0000
        Re: Tv reception noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2017-02-05 11:49 +1000
          Re: Tv reception Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2017-02-05 05:31 +0000
      Re: Tv reception noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2017-02-05 11:48 +1000
        Re: Tv reception Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2017-02-05 05:25 +0000
          Re: Tv reception "~misfit~" <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 13:30 +1300
            Re: Tv reception not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-02-06 21:19 +0000
            Re: Tv reception Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2017-02-07 03:06 +0000
              Re: Tv reception "~misfit~" <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 20:50 +1300
    Re: Tv reception F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-05 13:51 +1100
      Re: Tv reception Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2017-02-05 05:34 +0000
      Re: Tv reception Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 17:10 +1100
        Re: Tv reception F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-05 18:25 +1100
          Re: Tv reception Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 19:09 +1100
            Re: Tv reception "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 19:58 +1100
              Re: Tv reception Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 23:12 +1100
                Re: Tv reception "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 03:52 +1100
                Re: Tv reception Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 12:18 +1100
            Re: Tv reception felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-06 00:04 +1100
              Re: Tv reception "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 07:54 +1100
              Re: Tv reception "~misfit~" <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 13:32 +1300
                Re: Tv reception Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-06 11:44 +1100
  Re: Tv reception "Benderthe.evilrobot" <Benderthe.evilrobot@virginmedia.com> - 2017-02-05 20:43 +0000
    Re: Tv reception F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-06 10:03 +1100
      Re: Tv reception F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-07 17:36 +1100
        Re: Tv reception Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 17:56 +1100
          Re: Tv reception F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-07 18:38 +1100
            Re: Tv reception Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 19:37 +1100
            Re: Tv reception Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-08 00:07 +1100
        Re: Tv reception "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 08:54 +1100
          Re: Tv reception "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 08:55 +1100
            Re: Tv reception F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-10 22:42 +1100
              Re: Tv reception Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-11 09:21 +1100
                Re: Tv reception F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-11 12:58 +1100
                Re: Tv reception Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-11 15:42 +1100
                Re: Tv reception F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-11 16:45 +1100
                Re: Tv reception Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-11 17:26 +1100
                Re: Tv reception Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2017-02-10 21:49 -0800
                Re: Tv reception "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-02-11 17:22 +1100
                Re: Tv reception Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-11 17:37 +1100
                Re: Tv reception Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2017-02-10 23:18 -0800
                Re: Tv reception "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 03:26 +1100
                Re: Tv reception Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 09:54 +1100
                Re: Tv reception "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 12:57 +1100
                Re: Tv reception F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-12 16:16 +1100
                Re: Tv reception F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-12 16:24 +1100
                Re: Tv reception Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 17:39 +1100
                Re: Tv reception "~misfit~" <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 00:49 +1300
                Re: Tv reception F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-13 01:59 +1100
                Re: Tv reception "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 07:22 +1100
                Re: Tv reception F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-13 13:31 +1100
                Re: Tv reception Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 14:58 +1100
                Re: Tv reception F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-13 15:29 +1100
                Re: Tv reception Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 17:30 +1100
                Re: Tv reception F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-14 20:33 +1100
                Re: Tv reception Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 21:25 +1100
                Re: Tv reception "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 05:44 +1100
                Re: Tv reception F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-15 12:26 +1100
                Re: Tv reception Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 16:26 +1100
                Re: Tv reception Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 13:04 +1100

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