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Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting

From rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Newsgroups comp.unix.shell, comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting
Date 2026-03-14 04:59 +0000
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On Fri, 13 Mar 2026 23:26:41 -0400, c186282 wrote:

>    If you need a web page to DO SHIT other than just sit there and look
>    pretty then you need PHP. I often used those 'make yer own page'
>    apps/CMS - cheap - to set up the HTML/pages ... the annoying stuff
>    ... and then used PHP to add IQ. Worked well, fairly quick. Found
>    Joomla to be maybe the best compromise of features, though there is a
>    bit of a learning curve compared to, say, WordPress.

Never used it. Our SPA used Angular. The browser based apps I did prior to 
the map being incorporated into the Angular project used Node.js/
Express.js on the backend and the Esri Javascript 3.x API on the fontend 
for the map pieces. 

I did a web app on the Pi yesterday. The Pi reads a I2C DHT11 sensor to 
get the inside temperature and humidity and publishes it so I can get the 
data in the browser on my main machine rather than switching to the Pi. 
Tomorrow I'll probably expand it to query NOAA for the outside temperature 
and humidity and add it to the page.  Python/Flask. 

fwiw, since the Flask package is included in the Pi's system site packages 
I'm not in a venv. Also I spun off a process using 
subprocess.Popen("python", "dht_simple.py") with no problem. The 
subprocess does the actual hardware read and updates the html. 

I suppose PHP was better than FrontPage that used millions of non-breaking 
spaces to format a page. Like Cobol there is still a lot of it around. 
However if I had a kid in college I would not advise them to use PHP.

https://kinsta.com/blog/php-vs-angular/

probably tl;dr. Synopsis: 

"The Angular framework works excellent for building large-scale apps with 
complexity and need of scalability.

PHP is an old player, and it’s still very much in the game. It’s a good, 
low-cost option for you to develop a small business website, a portfolio 
site, or even an ecommerce store."

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Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-12 07:21 +0000
  Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-12 03:42 -0400
    Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-03-12 12:34 +0000
      Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-03-12 15:08 +0000
        Just out of curiosity... (Was: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-03-12 15:22 +0000
          Re: Just out of curiosity... (Was: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-03-12 15:29 +0000
          Re: Just out of curiosity... Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-03-12 16:31 +0000
          Re: Just out of curiosity... (Was: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-12 19:04 +0000
      Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2026-03-12 17:58 -0400
  Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-03-12 09:00 +0100
    Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-03-12 10:59 +0100
      Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-03-12 12:44 +0000
        Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-12 14:12 +0000
          Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-03-12 09:58 -0700
            Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2026-03-12 19:38 +0000
              Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-12 20:18 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-13 11:37 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-13 19:24 +0000
              Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-12 20:57 +0000
            Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-03-13 07:59 +1000
              Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-13 11:44 +0000
              Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-03-13 08:00 -0700
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-13 16:03 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-03-13 09:26 -0700
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-13 19:02 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-03-13 12:21 -0700
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-13 20:56 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-03-13 14:14 -0700
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-13 21:52 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-03-13 15:03 -0700
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-13 22:08 +0000
                [OT] Static HTML and using PHP or Javascript (was Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-03-14 03:56 +0100
                Re: [OT] Static HTML and using PHP or Javascript (was Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-14 12:49 +0000
                Re: [OT] Static HTML and using PHP or Javascript (was Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-14 19:07 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-14 02:35 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-13 23:26 -0400
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-14 04:59 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-14 02:35 -0400
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-14 18:38 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-14 12:38 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-03-16 08:21 -0700
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-16 17:48 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-17 02:08 -0400
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-03-14 08:06 +1000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-03-14 07:51 +1000
          Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou@hotmail.com> - 2026-03-12 19:46 +0100
            Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-12 19:03 +0000
              Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou@hotmail.com> - 2026-03-12 20:44 +0100
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-13 11:32 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-03-13 12:57 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-13 13:33 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-03-13 23:17 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-14 01:21 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-13 21:58 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-03-13 23:01 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-13 23:07 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-14 03:08 +0000
                [OT] Religion and War (was Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-03-14 04:54 +0100
                Re: [OT] Religion and War (was Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-03-14 13:18 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-13 21:32 -0700
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting (religion) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-14 17:36 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting (religion) Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-14 17:52 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting (religion) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-15 02:32 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting (religion) Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-14 11:35 -0700
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting (religion) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-15 02:39 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting (religion) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-15 12:33 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting (religion) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-16 00:03 -0400
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting (religion) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-16 13:12 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting (religion) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-16 20:18 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting (religion) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-14 22:38 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting (religion) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-15 02:45 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting (religion) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-15 12:36 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-14 12:30 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-13 19:33 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-13 21:08 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-14 02:53 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-03-13 22:37 +0100
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-13 21:54 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-03-14 04:00 +0100
        Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou@hotmail.com> - 2026-03-12 19:23 +0100
          Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-12 20:50 +0000
            Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou@hotmail.com> - 2026-03-13 03:05 +0100
              Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-13 03:00 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-12 23:35 -0400
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-13 12:03 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou@hotmail.com> - 2026-03-13 04:59 +0100
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-13 01:32 -0400
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-13 12:07 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-03-13 12:48 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-13 21:59 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-03-13 23:01 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-13 23:09 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-14 06:29 -0400
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-14 12:36 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-14 03:19 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-14 04:10 -0400
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-03-14 15:28 +0100
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-14 18:58 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-14 13:02 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-13 19:13 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-03-13 03:20 -0700
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-13 12:14 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-03-13 22:02 +0100
              Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-13 11:52 +0000
        Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-03-13 07:43 +1000
          Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-13 11:38 +0000
      Unsettling bash tutorial (was: Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-14 11:07 +0000
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            Re: Unsettling bash tutorial c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-14 22:14 -0400
              Re: Unsettling bash tutorial rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-15 04:55 +0000
                Re: Unsettling bash tutorial c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-15 04:01 -0400
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                Re: Unsettling bash tutorial The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-15 12:39 +0000
                Re: Unsettling bash tutorial rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-15 20:45 +0000
                Re: Unsettling bash tutorial gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-03-15 23:20 +0000
                Re: Unsettling bash tutorial rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-16 02:03 +0000
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                Re: Unsettling bash tutorial The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-15 12:38 +0000
                Re: Unsettling bash tutorial rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-15 20:47 +0000
                Re: Unsettling bash tutorial rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-15 20:44 +0000
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                Re: Unsettling bash tutorial c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-16 05:11 -0400
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                Re: Unsettling bash tutorial The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-16 13:06 +0000
                Re: Unsettling bash tutorial c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-16 09:52 -0400
                Re: Unsettling bash tutorial The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-16 14:21 +0000
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                Re: Unsettling bash tutorial Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2026-03-16 18:03 +0000
                Re: Unsettling bash tutorial Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-16 11:09 -0700
                Re: Unsettling bash tutorial rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-16 19:53 +0000
                Re: Unsettling bash tutorial The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-16 20:25 +0000
                Re: Unsettling bash tutorial c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-17 02:10 -0400
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                Re: Unsettling bash tutorial c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-17 02:59 -0400
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              Re: Unsettling bash tutorial Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-15 08:08 +0000
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