Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting

From	rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Newsgroups	comp.unix.shell, comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting
Date	2026-03-14 02:53 +0000
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On Fri, 13 Mar 2026 21:08:52 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 13/03/2026 19:33, rbowman wrote:
>> On Fri, 13 Mar 2026 11:32:12 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> 
>>> It's very hard to documents a regexp . Or in fact a complex SQL
>>> statement.
>>> And in the latter case I replaced a complex SQL statement by a series
>>> of simple statements and some C and the program ran at least 10 times
>>> faster.
>>> (I never found out how long the SQL version ran because I aborted it
>>> after 6 hours. The C example ran and gave me debugging output, and
>>> once I had fined tuned it, it took about 40 minutes )
>> 
>> We had one support person who spent his spare time crafting SQL
>> statements. They would fail on older DB2 systems that had a 4K limit on
>> a statement size.  The best part is with a chain of
>> CONCAT(CONCAT(CONCAT(....  when a SUBSTR or something fails the whole
>> mess returns NULL.
> 
> Exactly. And since the statement is atomic, and very nested, as with
> regexp, its very hard to comment or debug.

Debug was the least of the problem. Understanding what the hell it did was 
the real task. As time went on sites were migrating from DB2 to SQL 
Server.  SQL Server has scalar functions but not the same set as DB2 and 
they might work differently.  

In another instance of planning for a future that never came, the original 
intent was to make the queries 'configurable'.  The truth was once a 
configurable query was developed it got passed down unchanged for years.  

Another attempt to be configurable wound up involving flex, bison, and the 
flagrant abuse of C macros. The two guys involved used to stand outside 
smoking, joking, and laughing evilly. I think they did it that way just 
because they could. It was a maintenance nightmare. One of them quit and 
the other one died leaving a pile of crap for future programmers.

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