Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates

From	Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system
Subject	Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates
Date	2015-08-02 23:29 -0400
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
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On 8/2/15 11:36 a, Alan Browne wrote:
> On 2015-08-02 11:25, Fred Moore wrote:
>> On 7/31/15 8:54 p, Davoud wrote:
>>> Warren Oates:
>>>>> I know Amazon are toying with "same day delivery" but not in the
>>>>> boonies
>>>>> where I live.
>>>
>>> Fred Moore:
>>>> Well, you know they are well into development of drone delivery. Just
>>>> make sure you remember to check the 'no napalm' box.
>>>
>>> They need to worry about anti-aircraft weapons. I think that this
>>> drone-delivery fad is a *very* bad idea, along with other commercial
>>> drone missions--they represent a hazard and an annoyance. I will not
>>> allow drones on my property. The barrage balloons will be unsightly,
>>> but I won't need to keep them up for very long before the drone
>>> terrorists get the message.
>>
>> Much as I agree with you, the FAA will haul your ass to jail for barrage
>> balloons. I don't know what the maximum allowed height for teathered
>> lighter-than-air craft is, but I doubt it's greater than 100', if that
>> high. Your 'air rights' are minimal.
>
> In the US, towers can be built to 99' w/o having a red light or strobe.
>   Helicopters, esp. EMS, are quite vulnerable to these.  I've been told
> that Florida is very problematic as very many towers go to exactly 99'
> to avoid putting in lights (I assume avoidance of maintenance cost is
> the primary driver).  That is old thinking.  With today's LED lighting
> and solar panels I'd assume maintenance costs have plummeted v. filament
> lighting with power fed from the tower base.
>
> Within class C and D airspace the height restriction may be tighter
> generally or close to approaches.

Here's an interesting article which relates the FAA's claim that it has 
complete jurisdiction of airspace and air rights from the ground up. The 
article may also portend what's to come with small drones being used for 
target practice.

New telemetry suggests shot-down drone was higher than alleged
<http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/08/new-drone-telemetry-suggests-shot-down-drone-was-higher-than-alleged/>

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Wonky Apple delivery dates Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-07-28 11:04 -0400
  Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-07-28 15:33 -0400
    Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-07-29 08:21 -0400
    Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-07-29 10:05 -0400
      Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-07-29 11:38 -0400
      Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-07-30 09:45 +1200
        Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 07:47 -0400
          Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-07-31 09:10 +1200
      Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-07-31 16:56 -0400
        Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-07-31 20:54 -0400
          Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-01 10:10 -0400
          Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-08-02 11:25 -0400
            Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-02 11:36 -0400
              Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-08-02 23:29 -0400
                Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-08-03 18:31 +1200
                Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-03 08:21 -0400
                Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-08-03 17:47 -0400
                Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-08-03 18:10 -0700
                Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-03 23:23 -0400
                Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-04 05:22 +0000
                Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-04 01:34 -0400
                Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-04 05:56 +0000
    Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> - 2015-07-29 18:26 -0400
      Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-07-30 13:43 +1200
        Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-07-30 08:07 -0400
          Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-07-30 17:05 +0000
            Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-07-30 13:16 -0400
              Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 14:35 -0400
                Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-07-30 16:26 -0400
                Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-07-31 17:02 -0400
                Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-08-15 10:50 +1000
              Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-07-30 17:28 -0700
            Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-07-30 17:27 -0700
              Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Desh <desh@treadstone.net> - 2015-07-31 13:24 -0400
                Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-02 05:27 -0700
        Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> - 2015-07-30 10:02 -0400
      Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 07:48 -0400
        Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-07-30 08:08 -0400
          Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 09:14 -0400
          Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-07-30 07:16 -0700
        Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> - 2015-07-30 10:06 -0400
  Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-07-29 15:35 +0000
    Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-07-29 13:30 -0400
      Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-07-30 18:14 -0400
    Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-07-30 08:01 -0400

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