Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates

Subject	Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system
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From	Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date	2015-08-03 08:21 -0400
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On 2015-08-02 23:29, Fred Moore wrote:
> On 8/2/15 11:36 a, Alan Browne wrote:
>> On 2015-08-02 11:25, Fred Moore wrote:
>>> On 7/31/15 8:54 p, Davoud wrote:
>>>> Warren Oates:
>>>>>> I know Amazon are toying with "same day delivery" but not in the
>>>>>> boonies
>>>>>> where I live.
>>>>
>>>> Fred Moore:
>>>>> Well, you know they are well into development of drone delivery. Just
>>>>> make sure you remember to check the 'no napalm' box.
>>>>
>>>> They need to worry about anti-aircraft weapons. I think that this
>>>> drone-delivery fad is a *very* bad idea, along with other commercial
>>>> drone missions--they represent a hazard and an annoyance. I will not
>>>> allow drones on my property. The barrage balloons will be unsightly,
>>>> but I won't need to keep them up for very long before the drone
>>>> terrorists get the message.
>>>
>>> Much as I agree with you, the FAA will haul your ass to jail for barrage
>>> balloons. I don't know what the maximum allowed height for teathered
>>> lighter-than-air craft is, but I doubt it's greater than 100', if that
>>> high. Your 'air rights' are minimal.
>>
>> In the US, towers can be built to 99' w/o having a red light or strobe.
>>   Helicopters, esp. EMS, are quite vulnerable to these.  I've been told
>> that Florida is very problematic as very many towers go to exactly 99'
>> to avoid putting in lights (I assume avoidance of maintenance cost is
>> the primary driver).  That is old thinking.  With today's LED lighting
>> and solar panels I'd assume maintenance costs have plummeted v. filament
>> lighting with power fed from the tower base.
>>
>> Within class C and D airspace the height restriction may be tighter
>> generally or close to approaches.
>
> Here's an interesting article which relates the FAA's claim that it has
> complete jurisdiction of airspace and air rights from the ground up. The
> article may also portend what's to come with small drones being used for
> target practice.
>
> New telemetry suggests shot-down drone was higher than alleged
> <http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/08/new-drone-telemetry-suggests-shot-down-drone-was-higher-than-alleged/>

I was only stating the requirement for lighting, not what the FAA claim 
as their jurisdiction.

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Wonky Apple delivery dates Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-07-28 11:04 -0400
  Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-07-28 15:33 -0400
    Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-07-29 08:21 -0400
    Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-07-29 10:05 -0400
      Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-07-29 11:38 -0400
      Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-07-30 09:45 +1200
        Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 07:47 -0400
          Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-07-31 09:10 +1200
      Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-07-31 16:56 -0400
        Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-07-31 20:54 -0400
          Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-01 10:10 -0400
          Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-08-02 11:25 -0400
            Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-02 11:36 -0400
              Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-08-02 23:29 -0400
                Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-08-03 18:31 +1200
                Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-03 08:21 -0400
                Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-08-03 17:47 -0400
                Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-08-03 18:10 -0700
                Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-03 23:23 -0400
                Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-04 05:22 +0000
                Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-04 01:34 -0400
                Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-04 05:56 +0000
    Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> - 2015-07-29 18:26 -0400
      Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-07-30 13:43 +1200
        Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-07-30 08:07 -0400
          Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-07-30 17:05 +0000
            Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-07-30 13:16 -0400
              Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 14:35 -0400
                Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-07-30 16:26 -0400
                Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-07-31 17:02 -0400
                Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-08-15 10:50 +1000
              Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-07-30 17:28 -0700
            Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-07-30 17:27 -0700
              Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Desh <desh@treadstone.net> - 2015-07-31 13:24 -0400
                Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-02 05:27 -0700
        Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> - 2015-07-30 10:02 -0400
      Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 07:48 -0400
        Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-07-30 08:08 -0400
          Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 09:14 -0400
          Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-07-30 07:16 -0700
        Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> - 2015-07-30 10:06 -0400
  Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-07-29 15:35 +0000
    Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-07-29 13:30 -0400
      Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-07-30 18:14 -0400
    Re: Wonky Apple delivery dates Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-07-30 08:01 -0400

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