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Re: Build Systems

From Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: Build Systems
Date 2023-08-22 00:12 -0700
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On Tue, 22 Aug 2023 02:28:29 +0100, Bart wrote:

> On 22/08/2023 01:58, Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
>> On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 13:44:28 -0700 (PDT), bart c wrote:
> 
>>> Is easier than messing about with makefiles. But you seem to be under
>>> the impression that using a makefile isn't running a script. I don't
>>> get it.
>> 
>> Call it a script if you like. The point remains, it does rather more
>> than merely "gcc -oprog prog.c"; for one, it ensures (assuming proper
>> rules are in place) both that modified dependencies get rebuilt, and
>> that unmodified ones don't unless told to.
>> 
>> So just as a trivial example, assume we have a dependency tree like so:
>> 
>>    types.h
>>      interface.h
>>        interface.c
>>      chess.h
>>        engine.c
>> 
>> Now interface.h gets modified.  Make would cause interface.c to be
>> rebuilt and the final output (executable, presumably) to be rebuilt,
>> but not engine.c.
> 
> 
> 
>> How does your script manage this - rebuilding what is necessary to
>> rebuild, but *only* what is necessary to rebuild?
> 
> It wouldn't. At the point /I/ come across makefiles, I only want to
> build the app from scratch. So everything will need compiling anyway. I
> don't need all those complications.
> 
> I've made this point half a dozen times.

That's great if you only work on toy-sized apps.

I've worked on apps where it took the combined effort of an entire network 
of machines half a day to do a complete rebuild, which is obviously not 
viable if you have multiple coders modifying multiple files and needing to 
keep changes up to date and in sync.  But rebuilding just the few bits 
which have been modified, or have had their dependencies modified, becomes 
trivial with a proper makefile. You type "make", wait for the few modules 
to build, then carry on.  Maybe a couple minutes.  And you're not working 
to outdated objects, because of dependency checking.


I'm sure you could do the same with a script, as well, but then you're 
just trading one "build language" for another, less well known, less well 
established one.

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  Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-13 21:45 +0100
    Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-13 23:43 +0100
      Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-14 01:16 +0100
        Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-14 00:46 +0000
          Re: Build Systems gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-14 01:05 +0000
            Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 18:59 -0700
              Dev on Windoze (Was: Build Systems) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-14 02:44 +0000
                Re: Dev on Windoze (Was: Build Systems) Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 20:53 -0700
                Re: Dev on Windoze (Was: Build Systems) Matthew Ernisse <matt@going-flying.com> - 2023-08-17 22:00 +0000
                Re: Dev on Windoze (Was: Build Systems) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-18 03:51 -0700
                Re: Dev on Windoze (Was: Build Systems) bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 04:58 -0700
                Re: Dev on Windoze (Was: Build Systems) Matthew Ernisse <matt@going-flying.com> - 2023-08-18 13:02 +0000
                Re: Dev on Windoze Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-08-20 16:14 +0300
                Re: Dev on Windoze "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 11:05 -0700
                Re: Dev on Windoze (Was: Build Systems) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 16:16 -0700
            Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-14 04:03 +0000
              Re: Build Systems gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-14 10:14 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Karl Meyer <karlmeyer25@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 05:16 -0700
          Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-14 10:35 +0100
    Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-14 15:06 +0200
      Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-14 14:58 +0100
        Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-14 15:49 +0000
          Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-14 18:00 +0100
            Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-15 11:00 +0200
              Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-15 11:40 +0100
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-15 15:21 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-15 16:11 +0100
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-15 15:39 +0000
                Re: Build Systems MJ OS_EXAMINE <m6502x64@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 08:58 -0700
                Re: Build Systems gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-15 16:44 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-15 20:00 +0100
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-15 18:03 +0200
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-15 17:01 +0000
                Re: Build Systems gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-15 17:07 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-08-15 23:17 +0300
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-15 22:57 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-15 18:49 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 13:13 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-15 23:09 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-15 23:36 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 15:55 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-16 01:05 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-16 01:39 +0000
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-16 11:37 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-16 12:15 +0100
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-16 15:16 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-16 16:34 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-16 18:07 +0100
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-16 17:43 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-16 18:51 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-16 21:26 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-16 22:25 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 00:15 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-17 01:02 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-17 02:56 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-17 11:21 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-17 21:26 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-17 23:40 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-19 00:43 +0100
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-17 15:45 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-18 00:24 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 17:46 -0700
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 18:29 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 19:13 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-18 14:55 +0200
                Re: Build Systems "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 14:34 -0700
                Re: Build Systems "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 14:34 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 15:19 -0700
                Re: Build Systems "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 15:43 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-19 13:19 +0200
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                Re: Build Systems "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-26 20:57 -0700
                Re: Build Systems "james...@alumni.caltech.edu" <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2023-08-27 00:01 -0700
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                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-27 16:58 +0200
                Re: Build Systems "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-27 11:58 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-27 16:52 +0200
                Re: Build Systems "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-27 11:59 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-18 01:49 +0000
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 02:19 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-19 01:21 +0100
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 18:36 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-19 13:51 +0200
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 05:35 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 00:35 -0700
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 09:54 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 12:30 -0700
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 13:44 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 17:58 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-22 02:28 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 00:12 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-22 11:13 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-22 11:36 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 13:37 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-22 13:51 +0100
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-22 14:51 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-22 17:19 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 09:30 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-22 17:51 +0100
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-22 16:36 +0000
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-22 16:50 +0000
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                Re: Build Systems kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) - 2023-08-22 20:46 +0000
                Re: Build Systems "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 12:47 -0700
                Re: Build Systems "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-26 21:06 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-22 17:04 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-20 00:10 +0100
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 17:50 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-20 20:48 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-20 22:07 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-21 00:51 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-21 01:26 +0100
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                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-21 03:13 +0100
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                Re: Build Systems Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 13:12 +0100
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                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 14:39 -0700
                Re: Build Systems "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 12:23 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-21 21:55 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-22 01:31 +0100
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                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-22 14:41 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 08:03 -0700
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-22 15:33 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-22 16:20 +0100
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                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-23 03:18 +0100
                Re: Build Systems "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 19:51 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-25 02:23 +0100
                Re: Build Systems "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-24 21:24 -0700
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                Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-25 20:49 -0700
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                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-24 18:29 +0000
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                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-25 13:52 +0000
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                Re: Build Systems candycane@f172.n1.z21.fsxnet (candycane) - 2023-08-26 00:47 +1300
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                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-19 14:42 +0000
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                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-20 14:13 +0200
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 06:05 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-20 16:15 +0200
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 09:25 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 13:35 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-21 14:43 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 05:52 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-21 14:30 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 15:18 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-21 23:26 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 16:11 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 14:47 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-21 23:20 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 15:45 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-22 00:57 +0100
                Re: Build Systems vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2023-08-20 14:24 +0000
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 09:09 -0700
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-20 17:28 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-19 20:26 +0100
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-18 14:50 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2023-08-18 13:19 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-17 17:16 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-17 17:24 +0100
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-18 15:32 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-18 07:22 -0700
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 07:48 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-18 17:11 +0200
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 08:58 -0700
                Re: Build Systems "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 16:32 -0700
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 04:02 -0700
                Re: Build Systems "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 12:26 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-19 13:56 +0200
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 05:43 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-16 11:23 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 02:34 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-16 12:52 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 03:56 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-16 13:23 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 12:55 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-17 15:52 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-17 02:14 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-17 15:56 +0200
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-17 16:01 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-17 09:07 -0700
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-17 16:20 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-17 09:31 -0700
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-17 17:24 +0000
                Re: Build Systems Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-08-19 14:06 +0300
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 04:39 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-19 16:46 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-19 16:00 +0000
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-20 14:15 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 07:25 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-20 18:03 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-17 19:51 +0100
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-18 16:44 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 08:21 -0700
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-18 15:39 +0000
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-18 17:47 +0200
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 10:49 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-19 15:16 +0200
                Re: Build Systems bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 07:58 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2023-08-19 09:05 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 12:48 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-15 21:36 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-15 21:43 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 14:07 -0700
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-16 12:46 +0200
              Really? (Was: Build Systems) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-15 13:15 +0000
        Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-15 09:54 +0200
          Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-15 11:07 +0100
            Re: Build Systems Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2023-08-15 03:42 -0700
              Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-15 12:14 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2023-08-15 05:53 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-15 15:57 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2023-08-15 09:10 -0700
  Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-14 14:49 +0200
    Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-14 14:39 +0100
      Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-15 11:08 +0200
        Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 02:56 -0700
          Re: Build Systems Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2023-08-15 03:23 -0700
            Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-15 11:45 +0100
              Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 03:53 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-15 13:15 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 06:22 -0700
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-16 01:20 +0100
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-16 12:57 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-16 12:19 +0100
                Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-16 15:18 +0200
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-16 18:12 +0100
                Re: Build Systems Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-16 18:18 +0100
                Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-16 17:45 +0000
          Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-15 15:30 +0200
            Re: Build Systems Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 06:58 -0700
              Re: Build Systems Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-15 14:06 +0000
              Re: Build Systems David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-15 17:08 +0200
        Re: Build Systems Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-15 21:46 +0100
    Re: Build Systems scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-14 15:48 +0000
  Re: Build Systems Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 12:16 -0700
  Re: Build Systems Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-29 04:43 -0700

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