Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95

From	rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc, comp.programming
Subject	Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95
Followup-To	comp.os.linux.misc
Date	2025-06-14 03:35 +0000
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On Fri, 13 Jun 2025 22:38:38 -0400, c186282 wrote:

>    In any case it's become very clear that a major update is needed for
>    the US airport/routing system. Knowing the govt process, the stuff
>    will already be obsolete by the time it's installed, but not nearly
>    SO obsolete.

In the early '70s we had a contract to build the controllers for the ALS 
system. The heart of the controller was an Eagle Signal electromechanical 
stepping switch which was pretty much obsolete. The harnesses had to be 
laced since the FAA wasn't sure about those new-fangled nylon cable ties.

>    There are few radiation-hardened chips coming out these days. We're
>    still talking 80s tech. Slow - but robust. Big enough transistors so
>    cosmic rays and such won't compromise things.

One project I worked on used TI's TMS9900 microprocessor of TI-99/4 fame. 
Or notoriety, take your pick. Its claim to fame was TI produced rad-hard 
parts. TI had ties to the defense industry that made them a natural.

TI was also involved with the 'expert systems' flavor of AI after neural 
networks fell on their face in the '80s.

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FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-13 22:38 -0400
  Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-14 03:35 +0000
    Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-14 00:29 -0400
      Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-14 16:34 +0000
        Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-15 00:38 +0100
          Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-14 23:28 -0400
            Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-15 14:04 +0000
              Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-15 21:44 -0400
        Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-14 22:41 -0400
          Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-15 14:19 +0000
            Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-15 18:45 +0000
            Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-15 22:02 -0400
              Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-16 03:00 +0000
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-16 01:13 -0400
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-17 03:42 +0000
              Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-16 17:52 +0000
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-17 03:49 +0000
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-17 01:29 -0400
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-17 18:20 +0000
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-17 23:06 -0400
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-18 14:15 +0000
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-18 19:38 -0400
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-18 00:02 +0000
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-06-17 17:30 -0700
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-17 22:38 -0400
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-18 03:55 +0000
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-18 08:03 -0700
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-18 16:15 +0000
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-18 19:41 -0400
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-19 22:25 +0000
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-19 23:12 +0000
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-20 08:36 -0400
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-20 20:00 +0000
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-21 01:34 -0400
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-21 06:50 -0400
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-21 19:30 +0000
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-22 06:43 -0400
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-21 23:57 +0000
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-22 01:15 +0000
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-21 21:24 -0400
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-22 06:14 +0000
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-22 02:50 -0400
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-22 15:49 +0000
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-22 18:22 +0000
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-23 00:40 -0400
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-23 11:27 -0700
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-24 01:34 +0000
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-24 07:52 -0700
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-24 22:24 +0000
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-25 09:20 -0700
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-26 03:36 +0000
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-06-29 15:20 +0200
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-30 00:01 +0000
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-23 18:43 +0000
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-22 11:43 +0100
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-22 15:49 +0000
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-23 01:01 -0400
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-23 18:46 +0000
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-24 04:52 +0000
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-24 05:06 +0000
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-24 01:24 -0400
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-24 06:31 +0000
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-24 10:19 +0100
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-24 22:25 +0000
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-25 02:02 +0000
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-25 01:58 -0400
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-25 02:17 -0400
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-22 15:49 +0000
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-22 19:09 +0000
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-22 21:55 +0000
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-23 02:25 +0000
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-23 01:07 -0400
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-23 05:52 +0000
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-23 05:35 +0000
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-23 16:43 +0000
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-23 19:11 +0000
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-24 01:36 +0000
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-24 04:52 +0000
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-24 06:47 +0000
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-24 01:02 -0400
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-22 06:49 -0400
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-22 15:49 +0000
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-22 02:14 -0400
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-18 22:44 +0000
          Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-15 18:36 +0000
            Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-15 22:40 -0400
              Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-16 04:11 +0000
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-16 01:30 -0400
                Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-16 18:15 +0000
      Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-16 09:35 -0700
        Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-17 04:00 +0000
          Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-17 04:22 -0400
        Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-17 23:11 -0400
          Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-18 08:01 -0700

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