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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.misc |
| Subject | Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 |
| Date | 2025-06-22 19:09 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mbr2nlF5ijfU2@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | (18 earlier) <DFH5Q.378160$K3w3.127069@fx05.iad> <mbp3ooFqebsU3@mid.individual.net> <8judncOVBsnUxsr1nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com> <mbpla6Ft9taU1@mid.individual.net> <FCV5Q.1598985$G6Lf.181139@fx17.iad> |
On Sun, 22 Jun 2025 15:49:57 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2025-06-22, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > >> On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 21:24:07 -0400, c186282 wrote: >> >>> Still wonder about the Babylonian base-60 thing ... >> >> Yeah, every time I have to convert degrees/minutes/seconds into >> something I can work with. The jury is still out if that can be blamed >> on them or not. The French tried to metrify that and more or less >> failed. > > Fortunately, my GPS (thank you, Garmin!) lets me select the notation > when entering latitude and longitude. Some sources write it as > degrees/minutes/seconds, some use degrees/minutes with decimals, some > use decimal degrees. Geocaching uses decimal minutes so I've gotten used to that. However that's strictly a display option. If you look at a gpx file the way points are decimal degrees like <wpt lat="46.857333" lon="-113.989017"> Track points are the same, luckily. I dump the gpx track of my walks from the Zepp app to play with them. Finding the distance traveled is easy by iterating through the points and summing the deltas. Not so easy if they were in decimal seconds. We allowed users to configure the display values to decimal degrees, minutes, or seconds as well as UTM and USNG but the values were stored as double in decimal degrees. Your average dispatcher has no idea where any of them are. One of the VPs was enthusiastic about WhatThreeWords so I did a demo build. https://what3words.com/elder.wallet.corner I was surprised when I visited a client site and found the dispatchers like it. You need an app on your phone so you can tell them you're at aardvark petunia frisbee. I was skeptical on several counts. w3w divides the world into 9m grids and assigns each square to a string. They hold the keys, literally, since there is no logical way to convert the data except by using their database. Adjacent squares have completely different words and if you're dyslexic you're screwed; 'aardvark frisbee petunia' may be a thousand miles away. I suppose it's no worse than USNG that is supposed to make giving locations easier. https://www.fgdc.gov/usng/how-to-read-usng If you want to have real fun with your Garmin set the datum to NAD27. When he first started a geocacher was using that instead of WGS 84. The coordinates were about 100 yards away, which is fun when you're looking for a hidden ammo can on the side of a mountain.
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FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-13 22:38 -0400
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-14 03:35 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-14 00:29 -0400
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-14 16:34 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-15 00:38 +0100
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-14 23:28 -0400
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-15 14:04 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-15 21:44 -0400
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-14 22:41 -0400
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-15 14:19 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-15 18:45 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-15 22:02 -0400
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-16 03:00 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-16 01:13 -0400
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-17 03:42 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-16 17:52 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-17 03:49 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-17 01:29 -0400
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-17 18:20 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-17 23:06 -0400
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-18 14:15 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-18 19:38 -0400
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-18 00:02 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-06-17 17:30 -0700
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-17 22:38 -0400
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-18 03:55 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-18 08:03 -0700
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-18 16:15 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-18 19:41 -0400
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-19 22:25 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-19 23:12 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-20 08:36 -0400
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-20 20:00 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-21 01:34 -0400
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-21 06:50 -0400
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-21 19:30 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-22 06:43 -0400
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-21 23:57 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-22 01:15 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-21 21:24 -0400
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-22 06:14 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-22 02:50 -0400
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-22 15:49 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-22 18:22 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-23 00:40 -0400
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-23 11:27 -0700
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-24 01:34 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-24 07:52 -0700
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-24 22:24 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-25 09:20 -0700
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-26 03:36 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-06-29 15:20 +0200
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-30 00:01 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-23 18:43 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-22 11:43 +0100
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-22 15:49 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-23 01:01 -0400
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-23 18:46 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-24 04:52 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-24 05:06 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-24 01:24 -0400
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-24 06:31 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-24 10:19 +0100
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-24 22:25 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-25 02:02 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-25 01:58 -0400
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-25 02:17 -0400
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-22 15:49 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-22 19:09 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-22 21:55 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-23 02:25 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-23 01:07 -0400
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-23 05:52 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-23 05:35 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-23 16:43 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-23 19:11 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-24 01:36 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-24 04:52 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-24 06:47 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-24 01:02 -0400
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-22 06:49 -0400
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-22 15:49 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-22 02:14 -0400
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-18 22:44 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-15 18:36 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-15 22:40 -0400
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-16 04:11 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-16 01:30 -0400
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-16 18:15 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-16 09:35 -0700
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-17 04:00 +0000
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-17 04:22 -0400
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-17 23:11 -0400
Re: FAA To Finally Ditch Floppy Disks & Win-95 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-18 08:01 -0700
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