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Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python

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Date 2011-07-12 04:03 +1000
Subject Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python
From Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
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On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 2:56 AM, rantingrick <rantingrick@gmail.com> wrote:
> It is very rare to need to "bang out" hundreds of lines of code to
> replace a mouse click interface. If properly designed a good API can
> compete with a GUI. In far less time than it takes me to scroll down a
> list of widgets, pick the appropriate one, drag it across the screen,
> tinker with it's absolute position, and set some attributes,  i could
> have typed Widget(parent, **kw).geometry(blah, blah) and been done.
>

Point to ponder: Human beings tend to memorize names better than
images from long lists. Most widgets have names as well as appearances
(although it's arguable that the appearance is more what the widget
_is_, and the name is somewhat arbitrary), although in some cases
there's odd pairings - some toolkits merge Radio Button and Check
Box/Button into a single object, others call them two different
things.

To find the widget you need, you must either scroll a long list and
pick the one you want, or key in - possibly with autocompletion
assistance - the name. Which is easier to memorize? Which is easier to
explain? I'd always rather work with the name. And even with the most
point-and-clicky of interface designers, it's normal to be able to see
the names of the objects you're working with.

The one time where point and click is majorly superior to scripted
design is with pixel positioning of widgets. You can drag things
around until you're artistically happy with them, rather than have to
fiddle with the numbers in code. That's how I learned to code GUIs,
but when I started doing cross-platform work and discovered rule-based
layouts (where you put objects in boxes and lay out the boxes in
order, etc), suddenly life got a LOT easier.

ChrisA

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Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python Ivan Kljaic <ikljaic@gmail.com> - 2011-07-10 15:50 -0700
  Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python Corey Richardson <kb1pkl@aim.com> - 2011-07-10 19:03 -0400
  Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python CM <cmpython@gmail.com> - 2011-07-10 16:49 -0700
  Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python Adam Tauno Williams <awilliam@whitemice.org> - 2011-07-10 20:42 -0400
    Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python "bruno.desthuilliers@gmail.com" <bruno.desthuilliers@gmail.com> - 2011-07-11 05:09 -0700
      Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2011-07-11 22:39 +1000
        Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python sturlamolden <sturlamolden@yahoo.no> - 2011-07-11 06:44 -0700
          Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python Thorsten Kampe <thorsten@thorstenkampe.de> - 2011-07-11 16:10 +0200
            Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python sturlamolden <sturlamolden@yahoo.no> - 2011-07-11 07:21 -0700
              Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python Thorsten Kampe <thorsten@thorstenkampe.de> - 2011-07-11 16:38 +0200
              Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-07-12 00:39 +1000
                Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2011-07-11 09:33 -0700
                Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python rantingrick <rantingrick@gmail.com> - 2011-07-11 09:56 -0700
                Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-07-12 04:03 +1000
                Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python rantingrick <rantingrick@gmail.com> - 2011-07-11 11:52 -0700
                Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-07-12 05:27 +1000
                Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2011-07-12 12:40 +1200
                Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python Ivan Kljaic <ikljaic@gmail.com> - 2011-07-11 11:28 -0700
                Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-07-12 05:16 +1000
                Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python rantingrick <rantingrick@gmail.com> - 2011-07-11 12:03 -0700
                Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python Andrew Berg <bahamutzero8825@gmail.com> - 2011-07-11 14:48 -0500
                Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python sturlamolden <sturlamolden@yahoo.no> - 2011-07-11 12:58 -0700
                Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python sturlamolden <sturlamolden@yahoo.no> - 2011-07-11 13:02 -0700
                Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python sturlamolden <sturlamolden@yahoo.no> - 2011-07-11 13:19 -0700
                Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python sturlamolden <sturlamolden@yahoo.no> - 2011-07-11 12:37 -0700
                Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python Kevin Walzer <kw@codebykevin.com> - 2011-07-11 16:35 -0400
                Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python sturlamolden <sturlamolden@yahoo.no> - 2011-07-11 13:52 -0700
                Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python CM <cmpython@gmail.com> - 2011-07-12 11:43 -0700
                Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python rantingrick <rantingrick@gmail.com> - 2011-07-12 14:18 -0700
                Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python CM <cmpython@gmail.com> - 2011-07-12 17:22 -0700
                Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2011-07-13 07:59 -0700
                Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2011-07-12 11:10 +1000
            Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python Speedbird <julio@techfuel.net> - 2011-07-11 09:38 -0700
            Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-07-12 20:24 +1000
              Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python Andrew Berg <bahamutzero8825@gmail.com> - 2011-07-12 06:20 -0500
              Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-07-12 22:27 +1000
  Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python Adam Tauno Williams <awilliam@whitemice.org> - 2011-07-10 20:43 -0400
    Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python sturlamolden <sturlamolden@yahoo.no> - 2011-07-11 03:47 -0700
  Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python Anthony Papillion <papillion@gmail.com> - 2011-07-10 19:51 -0500
  Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python sturlamolden <sturlamolden@yahoo.no> - 2011-07-11 03:34 -0700
  Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python Kevin Walzer <kw@codebykevin.com> - 2011-07-11 09:58 -0400
  Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python Stefan Behnel <stefan_ml@behnel.de> - 2011-07-11 19:11 +0200
  Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python "Elias Fotinis" <efotinis@yahoo.com> - 2011-07-11 21:59 +0300
    Re: Why isn't there a good RAD Gui tool for python Billy Mays <noway@nohow.com> - 2011-07-11 15:21 -0400
      Re: Why isn't there a good RAD Gui tool for python Hansmeet Singh <hansmeetschool@gmail.com> - 2011-07-11 20:05 -0800
  Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python Dave Cook <davecook@nowhere.net> - 2011-07-11 23:33 +0000
    Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python sturlamolden <sturlamolden@yahoo.no> - 2011-07-11 18:42 -0700
    Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python sturlamolden <sturlamolden@yahoo.no> - 2011-07-11 18:38 -0700

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