Re: Can I copy/paste Python code?

From	Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se>
Subject	Re: Can I copy/paste Python code?
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Date	2015-07-22 18:53 +0200
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In a message of Wed, 22 Jul 2015 14:53:42 -0000, Grant Edwards writes:
>On 2015-07-22, Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> wrote:
>
>>>The entire purpose of PDF is to prevent people from changing the
>>>format and appearance of documents.
>
>> My problem isn't that I don't understand this, my problem is that I
>> think this is, in nearly all cases, morally the wrong thing to do.
>>
>> So this means that producing a reader that could do exactly what I do
>> is well within the abilities of Adobe.  But people who aren't as
>> technologically sophisticated as I am, or who don't have access to
>> such a person have to suffer.  This is not a tehcnical limitation,
>> but a political one.
>
>OK, so the problem is that apparently people are using PDF when they
>should be using something else (probably one of the e-book formats
>that allow the reader to select font and format -- or maybe just
>text).

This is the standard way for people writing documents using
libreoffice and microsoft word export them to a readership which
cannot be expected to also have libreoffice and microsoft word.

>It's not Adobe's fault.  PDF isn't _supposed_ to allow the reader to
>change the format.  It's the fault of people who are chosing to
>generate PDF documents when they should be using something else.
>Asking for PDF to allow the user to change the way the document looks
>is like asking for gasoline that isn't flammable.
>
>> Have the possibility of unchanging documents for the very rare times
>> when that is wanted and indeed needed, and the rest of the time let
>> the readers look at their docs any way they like.
>
>That's _exactly_ what HTML was supposed to be.  Now it's been broken
>and turned into another PDF by "web designers" who think everybody has
>the exact same monitor, OS, browser, eyes and brain that they have.

Could not agree more.

Laura

>Grant Edwards               grant.b.edwards        Yow! I'm a fuschia bowling
>                                  at               ball somewhere in Brittany
>                              gmail.com

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Can I copy/paste Python code? ryguy7272 <ryanshuell@gmail.com> - 2015-07-20 19:49 -0700
  Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-07-21 12:55 +1000
    Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> - 2015-07-21 14:29 +0200
      Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 00:48 +1000
      Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-07-21 17:12 +0100
        Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-21 20:05 -0400
      Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-07-21 19:25 +0200
        Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-07-21 18:55 +0000
        Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-07-22 10:45 +1000
          Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-07-22 09:01 +0200
            Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-07-22 13:54 +0000
              Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-07-22 16:37 +0200
                Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-07-22 14:53 +0000
                Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-07-22 18:53 +0200
                Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> - 2015-07-22 23:23 +0200
      Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-07-21 20:58 +0100
        Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-07-21 20:32 +0000
          Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-07-21 21:54 +0100
          Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Emile van Sebille <emile@fenx.com> - 2015-07-21 14:03 -0700
            Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-07-21 21:47 +0000
              Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Emile van Sebille <emile@fenx.com> - 2015-07-21 15:35 -0700
                Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-07-22 00:10 +0000
                Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Emile van Sebille <emile@fenx.com> - 2015-07-22 09:49 -0700
                Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-07-22 19:35 +0000
                Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Emile van Sebille <emile@fenx.com> - 2015-07-22 14:39 -0700
                Re: [OT] Can I copy/paste Python code? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 15:56 -0600
                Re: [OT] Can I copy/paste Python code? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-07-22 22:50 +0000
                Re: [OT] Can I copy/paste Python code? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-07-23 15:39 +1000
                Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-07-23 15:22 +1000
                Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-07-22 20:49 +0000
              Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2015-07-21 16:36 -0600
                Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-07-22 00:12 +0000
                Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2015-07-21 19:03 -0600
                Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 11:12 +1000
              Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 10:04 +1000
                Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Jussi Piitulainen <jpiitula@ling.helsinki.fi> - 2015-07-22 10:55 +0300
                Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 18:13 +1000
      Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-07-22 08:47 +0100
  Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-07-21 10:24 +0200
  Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? "Peter Heitzer" <peter.heitzer@rz.uni-regensburg.de> - 2015-07-21 08:40 +0000
  Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? ryguy7272 <ryanshuell@gmail.com> - 2015-07-21 08:18 -0700
  Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2015-07-21 13:41 -0400

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