Re: Can I copy/paste Python code?

From	Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se>
Subject	Re: Can I copy/paste Python code?
References	(2 earlier) <moldt9$tmm$1@dont-email.me> <CAPTjJmo-b0Cknw4z7H3XQqAxedByAERd3MJpQuZPJb5aSCrhZA@mail.gmail.com> <mailman.824.1437499543.3674.python-list@python.org> <55aee7a8$0$1637$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <mailman.854.1437548520.3674.python-list@python.org><moo7ae$bpn$2@reader1.panix.com>
Date	2015-07-22 16:37 +0200
Newsgroups	comp.lang.python
Message-ID	<mailman.867.1437575851.3674.python-list@python.org> (permalink)

Show all headers | View raw

In a message of Wed, 22 Jul 2015 13:54:22 -0000, Grant Edwards writes:
>On 2015-07-22, Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> wrote:
>
>> She's absolutely stuck with the font choices somebody
>> else made for everybody,
>
>Once again, that is the whole _point_ of PDF.
>
>> and they aren't right for her.
>
>> And this is way it is with the bulk of problems I end up having
>> to deal with from people who get pdfs and have problems reading
>> them --  what they want to do is outside of the range of what
>> they are allowed to do.
>
>The entire purpose of PDF is to prevent people from changing the
>format and appearance of documents.
>
>-- 
>Grant Edwards               grant.b.edwards        Yow! I hope I bought the
>                                  at               right relish ... zzzzzzzzz
>                              gmail.com            ...
>-- 

My problem isn't that I don't understand this, my problem is that I
think this is, in nearly all cases, morally the wrong thing to do. And
very often not what the document creator wanted in the first place --
they are using 'the Portable Document Format' because they expect it
to be readable by everybody.

And the upshot of this is that people send me PDFs that they cannot
use for some reason, and I get out reportlab and hack the PDF to be
something they can use, and send it back to them -- which I can pretty
much always do, unless the PDF uses a lot of bitmaps.

So this means that producing a reader that could do exactly what I do
is well within the abilities of Adobe.  But people who aren't as
technologically sophisticated as I am, or who don't have access to
such a person have to suffer.  This is not a tehcnical limitation,
but a political one.

Should Adobe get hit with a ton of lawsuits from disabled people
claiming unfair discrimination, they could change this policy
overnight.  Have the possibility of unchanging documents for the
very rare times when that is wanted and indeed needed, and the
rest of the time let the readers look at their docs any way they like.

Laura

Thread

Can I copy/paste Python code? ryguy7272 <ryanshuell@gmail.com> - 2015-07-20 19:49 -0700
  Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-07-21 12:55 +1000
    Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> - 2015-07-21 14:29 +0200
      Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 00:48 +1000
      Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-07-21 17:12 +0100
        Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-21 20:05 -0400
      Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-07-21 19:25 +0200
        Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-07-21 18:55 +0000
        Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-07-22 10:45 +1000
          Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-07-22 09:01 +0200
            Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-07-22 13:54 +0000
              Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-07-22 16:37 +0200
                Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-07-22 14:53 +0000
                Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-07-22 18:53 +0200
                Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> - 2015-07-22 23:23 +0200
      Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-07-21 20:58 +0100
        Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-07-21 20:32 +0000
          Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-07-21 21:54 +0100
          Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Emile van Sebille <emile@fenx.com> - 2015-07-21 14:03 -0700
            Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-07-21 21:47 +0000
              Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Emile van Sebille <emile@fenx.com> - 2015-07-21 15:35 -0700
                Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-07-22 00:10 +0000
                Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Emile van Sebille <emile@fenx.com> - 2015-07-22 09:49 -0700
                Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-07-22 19:35 +0000
                Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Emile van Sebille <emile@fenx.com> - 2015-07-22 14:39 -0700
                Re: [OT] Can I copy/paste Python code? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 15:56 -0600
                Re: [OT] Can I copy/paste Python code? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-07-22 22:50 +0000
                Re: [OT] Can I copy/paste Python code? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-07-23 15:39 +1000
                Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-07-23 15:22 +1000
                Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-07-22 20:49 +0000
              Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2015-07-21 16:36 -0600
                Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-07-22 00:12 +0000
                Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2015-07-21 19:03 -0600
                Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 11:12 +1000
              Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 10:04 +1000
                Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Jussi Piitulainen <jpiitula@ling.helsinki.fi> - 2015-07-22 10:55 +0300
                Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 18:13 +1000
      Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-07-22 08:47 +0100
  Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-07-21 10:24 +0200
  Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? "Peter Heitzer" <peter.heitzer@rz.uni-regensburg.de> - 2015-07-21 08:40 +0000
  Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? ryguy7272 <ryanshuell@gmail.com> - 2015-07-21 08:18 -0700
  Re: Can I copy/paste Python code? Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2015-07-21 13:41 -0400

csiph-web