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Re: checking if two things do not equal None

Date 2014-03-30 14:58 +0100
From MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com>
Subject Re: checking if two things do not equal None
References (5 earlier) <mailman.8709.1396145720.18130.python-list@python.org> <roy-346471.22394529032014@news.panix.com> <308493ad-d904-4897-8d7d-6f7780a6bb7d@googlegroups.com> <5337b4e4$0$29994$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <roy-B1CF22.08212530032014@news.panix.com>
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On 2014-03-30 13:21, Roy Smith wrote:
> In article <5337b4e4$0$29994$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com>,
>   Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> wrote:
>
>> I think Johannes got it right: boolean logic is easier to reason about
>> when there is a minimum of "not"s.
>
> I used to do a lot of digital logic design.  In certain logic families,
> it's easier to build a NAND gate than an AND gate (and similarly, NOR is
> easier than OR).  This leads to lots of inverted logic.  Adding to the
> confusion, many designs would use "active low" logic, which means a 1
> was represented by a low voltage, and a 0 by a high voltage.  So, you
> quickly end up with gibberish like, "not active low clear nand not
> active low enable clock".  I'm glad I don't do that stuff any more.
>
When you're building with discrete logic chips, NAND gates are useful
because you can use them as inverters too, which helps to keep the chip
count down.

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checking if two things do not equal None contact.trigon@gmail.com - 2014-03-29 11:56 -0700
  Re: checking if two things do not equal None Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-29 19:05 +0000
    Re: checking if two things do not equal None contact.trigon@gmail.com - 2014-03-29 12:23 -0700
    Re: checking if two things do not equal None Lele Gaifax <lele@metapensiero.it> - 2014-03-29 20:24 +0100
    Re: checking if two things do not equal None Johannes Bauer <dfnsonfsduifb@gmx.de> - 2014-03-29 22:01 +0100
      Re: checking if two things do not equal None Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-03-29 17:07 -0400
        Re: checking if two things do not equal None Johannes Bauer <dfnsonfsduifb@gmx.de> - 2014-03-29 22:55 +0100
          Re: checking if two things do not equal None Johannes Bauer <dfnsonfsduifb@gmx.de> - 2014-03-29 23:02 +0100
        Re: checking if two things do not equal None Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2014-03-29 18:01 -0400
          Re: checking if two things do not equal None contact.trigon@gmail.com - 2014-03-29 16:20 -0700
        Re: checking if two things do not equal None Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2014-03-29 17:36 -0500
          Re: checking if two things do not equal None Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-30 02:24 +0000
            Re: checking if two things do not equal None Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-03-29 22:43 -0400
              Re: checking if two things do not equal None Zachary Ware <zachary.ware+pylist@gmail.com> - 2014-03-29 22:04 -0500
        Re: checking if two things do not equal None Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-03-29 18:41 -0400
        Re: checking if two things do not equal None Tim Chase <tim@thechases.com> - 2014-03-29 17:46 -0500
          Re: checking if two things do not equal None Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-03-29 18:51 -0400
        Re: checking if two things do not equal None Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-30 10:17 +1100
        Re: checking if two things do not equal None Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2014-03-29 20:19 -0500
        Re: checking if two things do not equal None Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-30 12:37 +1100
        Re: checking if two things do not equal None Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-30 02:04 +0000
          Re: checking if two things do not equal None Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-30 13:15 +1100
            Re: checking if two things do not equal None Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-03-29 22:39 -0400
              Re: checking if two things do not equal None Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-29 19:54 -0700
                Re: checking if two things do not equal None Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-30 06:08 +0000
                Re: checking if two things do not equal None Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-03-30 08:21 -0400
                Re: checking if two things do not equal None MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2014-03-30 14:58 +0100
                Re: checking if two things do not equal None Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2014-03-31 11:48 +1300
              Re: checking if two things do not equal None Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2014-03-30 19:41 +1300
                Re: checking if two things do not equal None Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-30 10:37 +0300
            Re: checking if two things do not equal None Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-30 05:54 +0000
              Re: checking if two things do not equal None Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-30 17:17 +1100
              Re: checking if two things do not equal None Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-03-30 17:52 +1100
              Re: checking if two things do not equal None Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-30 18:36 +1100
      Re: checking if two things do not equal None Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-03-29 16:20 -0700
  Re: checking if two things do not equal None Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-03-29 19:02 -0400
  Re: checking if two things do not equal None Jeremy Sanders <jeremy@jeremysanders.net> - 2014-03-31 09:56 +0200
    Re: checking if two things do not equal None Abe <contact.trigon@gmail.com> - 2014-03-31 10:28 -0700
      Re: checking if two things do not equal None Moritz Emanuel Beber <moritz.beber@gmail.com> - 2014-03-31 21:22 +0200

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