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Re: checking if two things do not equal None

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In article <lh7cb4$ntu$2@news.albasani.net>,
 Johannes Bauer <dfnsonfsduifb@gmx.de> wrote:

> On 29.03.2014 20:05, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> > On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 11:56:50 -0700, contact.trigon wrote:
> > 
> >> if (a, b) != (None, None):
> >> or
> >> if a != None != b:
> >>
> >> Preference? Pros? Cons? Alternatives?
> >
> > if not (a is b is None): ...
> > 
> > Or if you prefer:
> > 
> > if a is not b is not None: ...
> 
> Is this an obfuscated coding contest? Why do you opt for a solution that
> one has to at least think 2 seconds about when the simplest solution:
> 
> if (a is not None) or (b is not None):
> 
> is immediately understandable by everyone?

I agree with that.  But

> if (a, b) != (None, None):

seems pretty straight-forward to me too.  In fact, if anything, it seems 
easier to understand than

> if (a is not None) or (b is not None):

I certainly agree that things like

> if a is not b is not None: ...

belong in an obfuscated coding contest.  Code gets read a lot more often 
than it get written.  Make it dead-ass simple to understand, and future 
generations of programmers who inherit your code will thank you for it.

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checking if two things do not equal None contact.trigon@gmail.com - 2014-03-29 11:56 -0700
  Re: checking if two things do not equal None Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-29 19:05 +0000
    Re: checking if two things do not equal None contact.trigon@gmail.com - 2014-03-29 12:23 -0700
    Re: checking if two things do not equal None Lele Gaifax <lele@metapensiero.it> - 2014-03-29 20:24 +0100
    Re: checking if two things do not equal None Johannes Bauer <dfnsonfsduifb@gmx.de> - 2014-03-29 22:01 +0100
      Re: checking if two things do not equal None Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-03-29 17:07 -0400
        Re: checking if two things do not equal None Johannes Bauer <dfnsonfsduifb@gmx.de> - 2014-03-29 22:55 +0100
          Re: checking if two things do not equal None Johannes Bauer <dfnsonfsduifb@gmx.de> - 2014-03-29 23:02 +0100
        Re: checking if two things do not equal None Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2014-03-29 18:01 -0400
          Re: checking if two things do not equal None contact.trigon@gmail.com - 2014-03-29 16:20 -0700
        Re: checking if two things do not equal None Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2014-03-29 17:36 -0500
          Re: checking if two things do not equal None Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-30 02:24 +0000
            Re: checking if two things do not equal None Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-03-29 22:43 -0400
              Re: checking if two things do not equal None Zachary Ware <zachary.ware+pylist@gmail.com> - 2014-03-29 22:04 -0500
        Re: checking if two things do not equal None Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-03-29 18:41 -0400
        Re: checking if two things do not equal None Tim Chase <tim@thechases.com> - 2014-03-29 17:46 -0500
          Re: checking if two things do not equal None Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-03-29 18:51 -0400
        Re: checking if two things do not equal None Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-30 10:17 +1100
        Re: checking if two things do not equal None Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2014-03-29 20:19 -0500
        Re: checking if two things do not equal None Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-30 12:37 +1100
        Re: checking if two things do not equal None Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-30 02:04 +0000
          Re: checking if two things do not equal None Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-30 13:15 +1100
            Re: checking if two things do not equal None Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-03-29 22:39 -0400
              Re: checking if two things do not equal None Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-29 19:54 -0700
                Re: checking if two things do not equal None Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-30 06:08 +0000
                Re: checking if two things do not equal None Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-03-30 08:21 -0400
                Re: checking if two things do not equal None MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2014-03-30 14:58 +0100
                Re: checking if two things do not equal None Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2014-03-31 11:48 +1300
              Re: checking if two things do not equal None Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2014-03-30 19:41 +1300
                Re: checking if two things do not equal None Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-30 10:37 +0300
            Re: checking if two things do not equal None Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-30 05:54 +0000
              Re: checking if two things do not equal None Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-30 17:17 +1100
              Re: checking if two things do not equal None Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-03-30 17:52 +1100
              Re: checking if two things do not equal None Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-30 18:36 +1100
      Re: checking if two things do not equal None Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-03-29 16:20 -0700
  Re: checking if two things do not equal None Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-03-29 19:02 -0400
  Re: checking if two things do not equal None Jeremy Sanders <jeremy@jeremysanders.net> - 2014-03-31 09:56 +0200
    Re: checking if two things do not equal None Abe <contact.trigon@gmail.com> - 2014-03-31 10:28 -0700
      Re: checking if two things do not equal None Moritz Emanuel Beber <moritz.beber@gmail.com> - 2014-03-31 21:22 +0200

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