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Re: Defamation

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Date 2015-10-22 19:05 +1100
Subject Re: Defamation
From Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Message-ID <mailman.86.1445501108.878.python-list@python.org> (permalink)

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On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 11:45 AM, John O'Hagan <mail@johnohagan.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Oct 2015 00:09:18 +1100
> Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> wrote:
>
>
>> I don't believe that the Python mailing list archives are hosted in a
>> country under the jurisdiction of European Law. If I'm right, then
>> removing posts sets a dangerous precedent of obeying laws in foreign
>> countries that don't apply.
>
> For better or worse, that's not how defamation law works. Generally,
> the defaming is regarded as happening where the material is read, i.e.
> at the point of download. The location of upload, hosting etc is
> irrelevant, although the uploader and the host can both be liable
> along with the author. Of course, the point is moot if none of those
> people has assets in that jurisdiction.

So... someone in Europe who rents a server in the US has to worry
about defamation law in literally every country on this planet, or
else IP-ban people from accessing the server, just in case s/he's
liable? Is that really how this works? Ouch.

ChrisA

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Re: Defamation Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-10-19 18:28 +0200
  Re: Defamation Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-10-21 00:09 +1100
    Re: Defamation Ralf Hildebrandt <Ralf.Hildebrandt@charite.de> - 2015-10-20 15:46 +0200
    Re: Defamation Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-10-20 16:44 +0200
      Re: Defamation Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-10-21 10:30 +1100
        Re: Defamation Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-10-21 08:53 +0200
        Re: Defamation Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2015-10-21 04:01 -0400
        Re: Defamation Ralf Hildebrandt <Ralf.Hildebrandt@charite.de> - 2015-10-21 11:52 +0200
    Re: Defamation "John O'Hagan" <mail@johnohagan.com> - 2015-10-22 11:45 +1100
      Re: Defamation Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-10-23 02:17 +1100
    Re: Defamation Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-10-22 19:05 +1100
    Re: Defamation "John O'Hagan" <mail@johnohagan.com> - 2015-10-22 21:10 +1100
    Re: Defamation Oscar Benjamin <oscar.j.benjamin@gmail.com> - 2015-10-22 11:33 +0100
    Re: Defamation Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-10-22 13:19 +0200
    Re: Defamation Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-10-22 13:36 +0200
    Re: Defamation Oscar Benjamin <oscar.j.benjamin@gmail.com> - 2015-10-22 12:59 +0100
    Re: Defamation "John O'Hagan" <mail@johnohagan.com> - 2015-10-23 10:03 +1100
    Re: Defamation John O'Hagan <research@johnohagan.com> - 2015-10-23 09:59 +1100

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