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Re: running python 2 vs 3

From Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com>
Subject Re: running python 2 vs 3
Date 2014-03-20 21:20 -0400
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On 3/20/14 9:06 PM, Ned Batchelder wrote:
> On 3/20/14 8:32 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 16:26:39 -0400, Ned Batchelder wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/20/14 3:07 PM, Eric Jacoboni wrote:
>>>> Le 20/03/2014 16:21, Marko Rauhamaa a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> All tutorials will tell you to start it with
>>>>>
>>>>>      #!/usr/bin/env python
>>>>>
>>>>> which will start python2 on all (?) existing linux distros, but is
>>>>> expected to start python3 within the next decade.
>>>>
>>>> With Arch-Linux, python is python3...
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Yes, and they have been told many times that this was foolish and wrong,
>>> but it persists, much to our pain.
>>
>> How bizarre. I've been looking forward with great pleasure to Fedora
>> moving to Python 3 as the standard system Python, expecting that this
>> move from one of the big distros will start a chain reaction of others
>> doing the same thing. Perhaps Arch-Linux is guilty of being prematurely
>> Python 3, a little like those people hauled up to explain themselves to
>> the House Unamerican Activities Committee to explain why they were a
>> "premature anti-fascist".
>>
>
> My understanding is that Fedora's move will not include making the word
> "python" mean Python 3.  Their move means that Python 3 will be
> installed by default, and that their Python programs that are part of
> the distro will be Python 3 programs.  They can still refer to it as
> "python3".

 From http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Python_3_as_Default :

    Users shouldn't notice any changes, ... /usr/bin/python will still
    point to Python 2 and depending on result of discussions with FPC,
    "yum install python-foo" will still install Python 2 version of
    the package.




-- 
Ned Batchelder, http://nedbatchelder.com

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running python 2 vs 3 notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2014-03-20 14:58 +0000
  Re: running python 2 vs 3 Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-20 17:21 +0200
    Re: running python 2 vs 3 notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2014-03-20 16:00 +0000
      Re: running python 2 vs 3 Zachary Ware <zachary.ware+pylist@gmail.com> - 2014-03-20 11:14 -0500
        Re: running python 2 vs 3 notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2014-03-20 17:10 +0000
          Re: running python 2 vs 3 Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-21 04:30 +1100
          Re: running python 2 vs 3 Gary Herron <gary.herron@islandtraining.com> - 2014-03-20 10:45 -0700
          Re: running python 2 vs 3 John Gordon <gordon@panix.com> - 2014-03-20 19:07 +0000
            Re: running python 2 vs 3 Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-03-20 18:05 -0400
              Re: running python 2 vs 3 alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2014-03-21 12:37 +1000
          Re: running python 2 vs 3 Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2014-03-20 15:44 -0600
    Re: running python 2 vs 3 Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-03-20 18:56 +0000
    Re: running python 2 vs 3 Eric Jacoboni <eric.jacoboni@gmail.com> - 2014-03-20 20:07 +0100
      Re: running python 2 vs 3 Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2014-03-20 16:26 -0400
        Re: running python 2 vs 3 notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2014-03-20 21:16 +0000
        Re: running python 2 vs 3 Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-21 00:32 +0000
          Re: running python 2 vs 3 Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2014-03-20 21:06 -0400
            Re: running python 2 vs 3 Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-21 03:16 +0000
              Re: running python 2 vs 3 Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-21 14:34 +1100
          Re: running python 2 vs 3 Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-21 12:10 +1100
          Re: running python 2 vs 3 Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2014-03-20 21:20 -0400
    Re: running python 2 vs 3 Alan Meyer <ameyer2@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-20 15:53 -0400
      Re: running python 2 vs 3 Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-20 22:08 +0200
        Re: running python 2 vs 3 Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-03-20 20:22 +0000
          Re: running python 2 vs 3 Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-20 22:30 +0200
            Re: running python 2 vs 3 Zachary Ware <zachary.ware+pylist@gmail.com> - 2014-03-20 15:43 -0500
            Re: running python 2 vs 3 Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-03-20 20:44 +0000
              Re: running python 2 vs 3 Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-20 22:50 +0200
                Re: running python 2 vs 3 Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-03-20 21:36 +0000
                Re: running python 2 vs 3 Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-21 00:59 +0000
                Re: running python 2 vs 3 Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-03-20 21:06 -0400
                Re: running python 2 vs 3 Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-21 13:18 +1100
                Re: running python 2 vs 3 Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-03-21 09:40 +0000
                Re: running python 2 vs 3 alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2014-03-21 12:09 +0000
                Re: running python 2 vs 3 Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-21 12:15 +1100
            Re: running python 2 vs 3 Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-20 22:39 +0000
        Re: running python 2 vs 3 Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2014-03-20 16:27 -0400
          Re: running python 2 vs 3 Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-20 22:42 +0200
            Re: running python 2 vs 3 Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2014-03-20 16:53 -0400
              Re: running python 2 vs 3 Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-20 22:59 +0200
                Re: running python 2 vs 3 Chris Kaynor <ckaynor@zindagigames.com> - 2014-03-20 14:18 -0700
                Re: running python 2 vs 3 Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2014-03-20 17:31 -0400
                Re: running python 2 vs 3 Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-21 00:23 +0200
                Re: running python 2 vs 3 Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-03-20 22:42 +0000
                Re: running python 2 vs 3 Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-21 10:18 +1100
                Re: running python 2 vs 3 Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-21 07:49 +0200
                Re: running python 2 vs 3 Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-21 16:54 +1100
                Re: running python 2 vs 3 Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-21 08:08 +0200
                Re: running python 2 vs 3 Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-20 23:51 -0700
              Re: running python 2 vs 3 Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-21 00:37 +0000
                Re: running python 2 vs 3 Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-03-20 18:23 -0700
              Re: running python 2 vs 3 Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-20 19:20 -0700
        Re: running python 2 vs 3 Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-21 10:04 +1100
      Re: running python 2 vs 3 Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-20 15:10 -0500
        Re: running python 2 vs 3 notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2014-03-20 21:28 +0000
          Re: running python 2 vs 3 Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-20 16:46 -0500
          Re: running python 2 vs 3 Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-21 00:17 +0200
          Re: running python 2 vs 3 Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-21 00:29 +0000
    Re: running python 2 vs 3 Dan Stromberg <drsalists@gmail.com> - 2014-03-20 13:38 -0700
      Re: running python 2 vs 3 Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-20 22:46 +0200
  Re: running python 2 vs 3 Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-20 11:11 -0500
    Re: running python 2 vs 3 notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2014-03-20 17:23 +0000
      Re: running python 2 vs 3 Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-21 04:29 +1100
        Re: running python 2 vs 3 Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-20 19:45 +0200
      Re: running python 2 vs 3 Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-20 12:42 -0500
        Re: running python 2 vs 3 Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-20 19:47 +0200
          Re: running python 2 vs 3 Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2014-03-20 14:45 -0400
          Re: running python 2 vs 3 Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-20 14:36 -0500
      Re: running python 2 vs 3 Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-03-20 17:52 -0400
        Re: running python 2 vs 3 notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2014-03-20 22:19 +0000

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