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| Date | 2014-03-21 12:15 +1100 |
| Subject | Re: running python 2 vs 3 |
| From | Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> |
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.python |
| Message-ID | <mailman.8335.1395364527.18130.python-list@python.org> (permalink) |
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> wrote: > The rule of three applies here: anything you do in three different places > ought to be managed by a function. Printing a newline at the end of a > line of output is *incredibly* common. Any language which fails to > provide a print-with-newline function is, frankly, sub-standard. I wouldn't go that far. There are plenty of languages where the default (printf, write, werror, etc) doesn't add the newline, and I wouldn't call the *language* sub-standard for that. But yes, it does bug me now and then. I use my "say" function to produce one or more lines of output in Gypsum, and it guarantees complete lines (because the system works with lines, not streams of characters); and then if I use the "werror" function to write to stderr, I have to remember to add the newline. However, I think Py2's print statement has way too many weirdnesses - the trailing comma (reminiscent of BASIC, where I never liked it either), the whole "soft space" concept, etc. Py3's print function, with the keyword end="", is a lot better, though still a tad verbose. (I don't know of any solution to that.) ChrisA
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Re: running python 2 vs 3 notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2014-03-20 21:16 +0000
Re: running python 2 vs 3 Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-21 00:32 +0000
Re: running python 2 vs 3 Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2014-03-20 21:06 -0400
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Re: running python 2 vs 3 Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-20 22:59 +0200
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Re: running python 2 vs 3 Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-21 00:23 +0200
Re: running python 2 vs 3 Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-03-20 22:42 +0000
Re: running python 2 vs 3 Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-21 10:18 +1100
Re: running python 2 vs 3 Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-21 07:49 +0200
Re: running python 2 vs 3 Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-21 16:54 +1100
Re: running python 2 vs 3 Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-21 08:08 +0200
Re: running python 2 vs 3 Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-20 23:51 -0700
Re: running python 2 vs 3 Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-21 00:37 +0000
Re: running python 2 vs 3 Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-03-20 18:23 -0700
Re: running python 2 vs 3 Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-20 19:20 -0700
Re: running python 2 vs 3 Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-21 10:04 +1100
Re: running python 2 vs 3 Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-20 15:10 -0500
Re: running python 2 vs 3 notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2014-03-20 21:28 +0000
Re: running python 2 vs 3 Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-20 16:46 -0500
Re: running python 2 vs 3 Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-21 00:17 +0200
Re: running python 2 vs 3 Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-21 00:29 +0000
Re: running python 2 vs 3 Dan Stromberg <drsalists@gmail.com> - 2014-03-20 13:38 -0700
Re: running python 2 vs 3 Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-20 22:46 +0200
Re: running python 2 vs 3 Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-20 11:11 -0500
Re: running python 2 vs 3 notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2014-03-20 17:23 +0000
Re: running python 2 vs 3 Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-21 04:29 +1100
Re: running python 2 vs 3 Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-20 19:45 +0200
Re: running python 2 vs 3 Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-20 12:42 -0500
Re: running python 2 vs 3 Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-20 19:47 +0200
Re: running python 2 vs 3 Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2014-03-20 14:45 -0400
Re: running python 2 vs 3 Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-20 14:36 -0500
Re: running python 2 vs 3 Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-03-20 17:52 -0400
Re: running python 2 vs 3 notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2014-03-20 22:19 +0000
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