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| Date | 2014-03-21 12:10 +1100 |
| Subject | Re: running python 2 vs 3 |
| From | Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> |
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.python |
| Message-ID | <mailman.8334.1395364231.18130.python-list@python.org> (permalink) |
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> wrote: > Perhaps Arch-Linux is guilty of being prematurely Python 3... > > I have no idea what "our pain" you are referring to, or who "our" refers > to. In the three or five years or so since Arch-Linux moved to Python 3 > by default, I don't recall ever seeing even a single email from somebody > confused by Arch-Linux's move, not here, or on the tutor mailing list, or > on Python-Dev or Python-Ideas. Nor have I seen any signs of difficulty or > confusion on Python-related blogs, or StackOverflow. > > That's not to say that there has been absolutely none at all. There definitely has been a little. Scripts that began with a "python" shebang and assumed 2.x would suddenly fail on Arch. But not a huge amount of confusion. I expect that there'll be a progressive shift - more distros will start shipping 3.x under the name "python", so script authors will be more and more aware of the difference, and before long we'll settle on explicit use of "python2" or "python3" for anything that matters. Think of the bug reports: "Your program doesn't work on Ubuntu 14.04, but change the shebang and it'll work, without breaking it for anything else". Easy fix. And then once Debian and Red Hat move to 3.x as the default system Python, everyone'll use "python2" for 2.7 (by that time, I doubt 2.6 or earlier will be supported much anywhere) and "python" for 3.x, and the transition will be complete. ChrisA
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Re: running python 2 vs 3 Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-21 00:23 +0200
Re: running python 2 vs 3 Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-03-20 22:42 +0000
Re: running python 2 vs 3 Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-21 10:18 +1100
Re: running python 2 vs 3 Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-21 07:49 +0200
Re: running python 2 vs 3 Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-21 16:54 +1100
Re: running python 2 vs 3 Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-21 08:08 +0200
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Re: running python 2 vs 3 Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-21 10:04 +1100
Re: running python 2 vs 3 Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-20 15:10 -0500
Re: running python 2 vs 3 notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2014-03-20 21:28 +0000
Re: running python 2 vs 3 Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-20 16:46 -0500
Re: running python 2 vs 3 Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-21 00:17 +0200
Re: running python 2 vs 3 Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-21 00:29 +0000
Re: running python 2 vs 3 Dan Stromberg <drsalists@gmail.com> - 2014-03-20 13:38 -0700
Re: running python 2 vs 3 Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-20 22:46 +0200
Re: running python 2 vs 3 Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-20 11:11 -0500
Re: running python 2 vs 3 notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2014-03-20 17:23 +0000
Re: running python 2 vs 3 Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-21 04:29 +1100
Re: running python 2 vs 3 Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-20 19:45 +0200
Re: running python 2 vs 3 Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-20 12:42 -0500
Re: running python 2 vs 3 Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-20 19:47 +0200
Re: running python 2 vs 3 Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2014-03-20 14:45 -0400
Re: running python 2 vs 3 Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-20 14:36 -0500
Re: running python 2 vs 3 Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-03-20 17:52 -0400
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