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Re: References, and avoiding use of ???variable???

From Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au>
Subject Re: References, and avoiding use of ???variable???
Date 2014-03-01 10:33 +1100
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Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> writes:

> On 2014-02-28, Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> wrote:
> > Right. I would like, ideally, for the Python documentation to
> > avoid mentioning that term entirely; and I would hope for that
> > to promote a better understanding of Python's data model.
>
> I like the characteristic of Python that assignment and argument
> passing work the same way.

Yes. They both work by binding a name to a value.

> The tutorial makes things sound more high-falutin' than that
> [Tutorial 4.6 Defining Functions]:
>
>   The actual parameters (arguments) to a function call are
>   introduced in the local symbol table of the called function
>   when it is called; thus, arguments are passed using call by
>   value (where the value is always an object reference, not the
>   value of the object). [...]
>
> How about:
>
>   The actual parameters (arguments) to a function call are passed
>   via assignment to the variables in the local symbol table of
>   the called function. 
>
> Am I oversimplifying?

As you can see by what you quoted from me above, I think the use of
“variable” here is unnecessarily confusing.

That whole chapter of the tutorial talks about “variable” and “variable
assignment”, when IMO it should avoid those terms and use the clearer
terminology of “reference”, “name”, and “binding a name to a value”.

(Why don't I submit these documentation changes myself? That's a matter
for a separate thread.)

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Ben Finney

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                Re: Can global variable be passed into Python function? Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-03-02 09:34 +1100
                Re: Can global variable be passed into Python function? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-02 10:03 +0200
                Re: Can global variable be passed into Python function? Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-03-02 21:59 +1100
                Re: Can global variable be passed into Python function? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-03-02 13:00 +0000
                Re: Can global variable be passed into Python function? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-03-01 15:15 +0000
                Re: Can global variable be passed into Python function? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2014-03-01 10:05 -0700
                Re: Can global variable be passed into Python function? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-01 19:29 +0200
                Re: Can global variable be passed into Python function? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-02 04:36 +1100
                Re: Can global variable be passed into Python function? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2014-03-01 11:06 -0700
                Re: Can global variable be passed into Python function? Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-03-01 13:30 -0500
                Re: Can global variable be passed into Python function? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-02 08:35 +0000
                Re: Can global variable be passed into Python function? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-02 11:35 +0200
                Re: Can global variable be passed into Python function? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-02 11:40 +0200
                Re: Can global variable be passed into Python function? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-02 21:07 +1100
                Re: Can global variable be passed into Python function? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-02 12:37 +0200
                Re: Can global variable be passed into Python function? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-02 10:44 +0000
                Re: Can global variable be passed into Python function? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-02 13:33 +0200
                Re: Can global variable be passed into Python function? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-03 01:50 +0000
                Re: Can global variable be passed into Python function? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-03-02 13:04 +0000
                Re: Can global variable be passed into Python function? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2014-03-02 11:48 -0700
                Re: Can global variable be passed into Python function? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-02 23:03 +0200
                Re: Can global variable be passed into Python function? Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-03-02 16:16 -0500
                Re: Can global variable be passed into Python function? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-03 08:28 +1100
                Re: Can global variable be passed into Python function? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2014-03-02 14:44 -0700
                Re: Can global variable be passed into Python function? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-03 00:46 +0200
                Re: Can global variable be passed into Python function? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-01 17:18 +0000
                Re: Can global variable be passed into Python function? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-01 00:58 +0000
                Re: Can global variable be passed into Python function? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2014-02-28 07:49 -0700
                Re: Can global variable be passed into Python function? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-02-28 20:00 +1100
                Re: Can global variable be passed into Python function? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-02-28 14:20 +0000
        References, and avoiding use of “variable” (was: Can global variable be passed into Python function?) Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-02-28 13:46 +1100
        Re: References, and avoiding use of ???variable??? (was: Can global variable be passed into Python function?) Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2014-02-28 14:30 +0000
        Re: References, and avoiding use of ???variable??? Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-03-01 10:33 +1100
          Re: References, and avoiding use of ???variable??? Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2014-03-01 16:08 +1300
            Re: References, and avoiding use of ???variable??? Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-03-01 15:22 +1100

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