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Re: Teaching Python

Date 2011-04-22 06:49 -0700
From Westley Martínez <anikom15@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Teaching Python
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On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 01:04:55AM -0500, harrismh777 wrote:
> Westley Martínez wrote:
> >But really, hack
> >> >has always been a negative term.  It's original definition is chopping,
> >> >breaking down, kind of like chopping down the security on someone elses
> >> >computer.  Now I don't know where the term originally came from, but the
> >> >definition the media uses is quite a fair use.
> 
> 
> Not so much...
> 
> ... the term hacker was coined at the MIT lab back in the days of
> the PDP-10 /11.   We can thank RMS, and friends.
> 
> 
> http://stallman.org/cgi-bin/showpage.cgi?path=/articles/on-hacking.html&term=hacking&type=norm&case=0
> 
> 
> RMS coined the term "Cracker" for the pejorative use.
> 
> Hackers cause no harm; ever.   Hackers are elegant ethical people
> who love the craft for the sake of the craft and the beauty of their
> art.
> 
> Hackers do have a disdain for "Herbert," (if you're a Trek-ie you
> know what I mean)    ...and hackers love to taunt Herbert...
> 
> Herbert...!  Herbert...!  Herbert...!
> 
>  /\
> /  \
> ----
> 
> Hackers are free and insist on freedom. Hackers would rather count
> on their fingers than be forced to use proprietary closed systems
> and software.  Hackers have no use for IBM, nor Microsoft.  (nor
> google)
> 
> 
> I am and forever will be a joyful hacker....   :)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> PS   The media is clueless...   (Herbert... Herbert... Herbert...)
> 
> 
> 
> 

Well I guess that means I'm no hacker.  I love IBM and Microsoft (and
Google, too ^_^).  So what would you call me?  A developer?  I'm
unemployed.  A cracker?  Well I do like to exploit website's security
and occasionally social engineer my friends' e-mail accounts.

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        Re: Teaching Python harrismh777 <harrismh777@charter.net> - 2011-04-22 01:04 -0500
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