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| Date | 2013-07-22 08:21 -0600 |
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| From | Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> |
| Subject | Re: Simple Python script as SMTP server for outgoing e-mails? |
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| Newsgroups | comp.lang.python |
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On 07/22/2013 06:19 AM, Gilles wrote: > On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 21:01:09 +0000 (UTC), Grant Edwards > <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> Unless you've got a static IP address, a domain name, and a valid MX >> record that will match up when they do a reverse DNS lookup, it's >> pretty unlikely that you're going to have much luck running an SMTP >> server. Most other SMTP servers are probably going to ignore or >> reject your attempts to transfer mail from your own SMTP server. > > Incidently, how do ISP MTAs find whether the remote MTA is legit or > running on some regular user's computer? > > 1. Query Reverse DNS for IP > 2. Find domain > 3. Query DNS for MX > 4. ? My mail server did a number of things: 1. ensure IP address of sending server has a reverse name (domain didn't particularly matter) 2. ensure the HELO address in SMTP matches IP address of sending server 3. check sender IP address against spam blacklists, which includes netblocks of home ISPs, some entire countries, flagged subnets 4. greylist sender IP if the recipient requested it. First connection always fails with a nonfatal server error, next connection must wait at least 5 minutes. If a reconnection happened too quickly, the IP was temporarily black listed. After success, IP address is whitelisted for a time. A commandline MTA will not be able to get through greylisting; only a mail server with queuing could. Spambots tend to give up on the first error, even now. Cheaper targets I guess. 5. spamassassin checked SPF (DNS) and domainkeys (message itself) and weighted the spam factor accordingly I think there were other basic rules that sendmail applied to the sender, but I can't remember all of what they are. This is well and truly off topic now for the python list, though.
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Simple Python script as SMTP server for outgoing e-mails? Gilles <nospam@nospam.com> - 2013-07-21 16:42 +0200
Re: Simple Python script as SMTP server for outgoing e-mails? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-22 00:48 +1000
Re: Simple Python script as SMTP server for outgoing e-mails? Gilles <nospam@nospam.com> - 2013-07-21 18:19 +0200
Re: Simple Python script as SMTP server for outgoing e-mails? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-07-21 11:46 -0600
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Re: Simple Python script as SMTP server for outgoing e-mails? Gilles <nospam@nospam.com> - 2013-07-22 14:11 +0200
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Re: Simple Python script as SMTP server for outgoing e-mails? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-24 07:37 +1000
Re: Simple Python script as SMTP server for outgoing e-mails? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-23 19:30 +1000
[OT] SPF - was Re: Simple Python script as SMTP server for outgoing e-mails? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-07-23 09:12 -0600
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Re: Simple Python script as SMTP server for outgoing e-mails? "Eric S. Johansson" <esj@harvee.org> - 2013-07-22 08:54 -0400
Re: Simple Python script as SMTP server for outgoing e-mails? Gilles <nospam@nospam.com> - 2013-07-23 23:48 +0200
Re: Simple Python script as SMTP server for outgoing e-mails? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-07-22 08:10 -0600
Re: Simple Python script as SMTP server for outgoing e-mails? Gilles <nospam@nospam.com> - 2013-07-23 23:50 +0200
Re: Simple Python script as SMTP server for outgoing e-mails? Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-07-21 12:39 -0400
Re: Simple Python script as SMTP server for outgoing e-mails? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-21 21:01 +0000
Re: Simple Python script as SMTP server for outgoing e-mails? Gilles <nospam@nospam.com> - 2013-07-22 14:13 +0200
Re: Simple Python script as SMTP server for outgoing e-mails? Gilles <nospam@nospam.com> - 2013-07-22 14:19 +0200
Re: Simple Python script as SMTP server for outgoing e-mails? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-22 14:10 +0000
Re: Simple Python script as SMTP server for outgoing e-mails? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-07-22 08:21 -0600
Re: Simple Python script as SMTP server for outgoing e-mails? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-23 02:12 +1000
Re: Simple Python script as SMTP server for outgoing e-mails? Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2013-07-22 21:32 +0100
Re: Simple Python script as SMTP server for outgoing e-mails? Kevin Walzer <kw@codebykevin.com> - 2013-07-22 10:14 -0400
Re: Simple Python script as SMTP server for outgoing e-mails? Gilles <nospam@nospam.com> - 2013-07-23 23:53 +0200
Re: Simple Python script as SMTP server for outgoing e-mails? Kevin Walzer <kw@codebykevin.com> - 2013-07-24 10:38 -0400
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Re: Simple Python script as SMTP server for outgoing e-mails? Wayne Werner <wayne@waynewerner.com> - 2013-08-03 06:47 -0500
Re: Simple Python script as SMTP server for outgoing e-mails? Gilles <nospam@nospam.com> - 2013-08-06 12:44 +0200
Re: Simple Python script as SMTP server for outgoing e-mails? Kevin Walzer <kw@codebykevin.com> - 2013-08-03 21:41 -0400
Re: Simple Python script as SMTP server for outgoing e-mails? Gilles <nospam@nospam.com> - 2013-08-06 12:45 +0200
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