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| From | Benjamin Kaplan <benjamin.kaplan@case.edu> |
| Date | 2013-07-13 11:17 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? |
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.python |
| Message-ID | <mailman.4726.1373893228.3114.python-list@python.org> (permalink) |
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Νικόλας <nikos@superhost.gr> wrote: > Στις 13/7/2013 7:54 μμ, ο/η Dennis Lee Bieber έγραψε: >> >> Are you paying for a fixed IP number? I suspect you are if you >> were >> running a world-accessible server. >> >> Obviously a fixed IP will be tied to a fixed connection and >> thereby to >> a fixed location which can be provided to a location database. >> >> But most of us have DHCP assigned IP numbers, which change >> everytime we >> reboot our connection (or even when the DHCP lease expires -- which may be >> daily). > > > Same networking scheme for me too, dynamic that is. > > Every time the DHCP lease expires or i reboot the router i get a new ip > address but every time the link i provided states accurately that my ip > address is from Thessaloníki and not Europe/Athens which is were my ISP > location is. > > Not to mention that in facebook, no matter the way i'am joining, via > smartphone, tablet, laptop it always pinpoints my exact location. > > But yes, i can understand your skepticism. > An ip address can move anywhere while remaining connected to the same ISP, > just like a networking device in the house, remains connected to the same > router while changing rooms or even floors, or even buildings. > > But then how do you explain the fact that > http://www.maxmind.com/en/geoip_demo > pinpointed Thessaloníki and not Athens and for 2 friends of mine that use > the same ISP as me but live in different cities also accurately identified > their locations too? > It's not telling you where your ISP is headquartered. It's telling you where the servers that you're connecting to are. In your case, you're connecting to servers that your Athens-based ISP has in a Thessaloniki datacenter. The only way to get an accurate location is to use something other than IP- phones like to use a combination of their GPS, a map of the cell phone towers, and a map of wi-fi hotspots (this is one of the things that Google's StreetView cars log as they drive).
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GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Νικόλας <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-12 17:18 +0300
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-07-12 11:32 -0400
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Νικόλας <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-12 18:52 +0300
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Νικόλας <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-12 19:32 +0300
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-12 16:38 +0000
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-13 02:47 +1000
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-07-12 19:04 -0400
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Νικόλας <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-13 08:48 +0300
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-13 15:53 +1000
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Νικόλας <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-13 09:07 +0300
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-13 16:22 +1000
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Νικόλας <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-13 09:28 +0300
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Lele Gaifax <lele@metapensiero.it> - 2013-07-13 10:12 +0200
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-07-13 12:48 -0400
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-07-13 12:59 -0400
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Wayne Werner <wayne@waynewerner.com> - 2013-07-13 13:35 -0500
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-13 10:36 +1000
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-07-12 19:42 -0400
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2013-07-12 11:19 -0600
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2013-07-12 18:07 -0400
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2013-07-12 23:07 +0100
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Νικόλας <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-13 08:32 +0300
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-07-13 12:54 -0400
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-07-13 13:09 -0400
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Νικόλας <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-13 20:43 +0300
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-07-13 14:19 -0400
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Νικόλας <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-13 21:23 +0300
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-07-13 14:30 -0400
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-07-13 16:57 -0600
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Νικόλας <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-16 22:43 +0300
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-07-16 15:51 -0400
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-07-16 20:51 -0400
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-17 10:58 +1000
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2013-07-14 13:32 -0500
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-07-13 14:21 -0400
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Νικόλας <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-13 21:28 +0300
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-14 09:12 +1000
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Wayne Werner <wayne@waynewerner.com> - 2013-07-13 13:46 -0500
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Benjamin Kaplan <benjamin.kaplan@case.edu> - 2013-07-13 11:17 -0700
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Νικόλας <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-15 16:25 +0300
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-07-15 20:34 -0400
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-07-15 20:48 -0600
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2013-07-17 10:07 +1000
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-14 03:03 +1000
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-07-12 16:15 -0600
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-07-12 12:24 -0400
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Νικόλας <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-14 08:18 +0300
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-14 15:24 +1000
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Νικόλας <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-14 10:51 +0300
Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-13 02:41 +1000
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