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Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ?

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On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Νικόλας <nikos@superhost.gr> wrote:
> Στις 13/7/2013 7:54 μμ, ο/η Dennis Lee Bieber έγραψε:
>>
>>         Are you paying for a fixed IP number? I suspect you are if you
>> were
>> running a world-accessible server.
>>
>>         Obviously a fixed IP will be tied to a fixed connection and
>> thereby to
>> a fixed location which can be provided to a location database.
>>
>>         But most of us have DHCP assigned IP numbers, which change
>> everytime we
>> reboot our connection (or even when the DHCP lease expires -- which may be
>> daily).
>
>
> Same networking scheme for me too, dynamic that is.
>
> Every time the DHCP lease expires or i reboot the router i get a new ip
> address but every time the link i provided states accurately that my ip
> address is from Thessaloníki and not Europe/Athens which is were my ISP
> location is.
>
> Not to mention that in facebook, no matter the way i'am joining, via
> smartphone, tablet, laptop it always pinpoints my exact location.
>
> But yes, i can understand your skepticism.
> An ip address can move anywhere while remaining connected to the same ISP,
> just like a networking device in the house, remains connected to the same
> router while changing rooms or even floors, or even buildings.
>
> But then how do you explain the fact that
> http://www.maxmind.com/en/geoip_demo
> pinpointed Thessaloníki and not Athens and for 2 friends of mine that use
> the same ISP as me but live in different cities also accurately identified
> their locations too?
>

It's not telling you where your ISP is headquartered. It's telling you
where the servers that you're connecting to are. In your case, you're
connecting to servers that your Athens-based ISP has in a Thessaloniki
datacenter. The only way to get an accurate location is to use
something other than IP- phones like to use a combination of their
GPS, a map of the cell phone towers, and a map of wi-fi hotspots (this
is one of the things that Google's StreetView cars log as they drive).

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GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Νικόλας <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-12 17:18 +0300
  Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-07-12 11:32 -0400
    Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Νικόλας <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-12 18:52 +0300
      Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Νικόλας <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-12 19:32 +0300
        Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-12 16:38 +0000
          Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-13 02:47 +1000
          Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-07-12 19:04 -0400
            Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Νικόλας <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-13 08:48 +0300
              Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-13 15:53 +1000
                Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Νικόλας <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-13 09:07 +0300
                Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-13 16:22 +1000
                Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Νικόλας <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-13 09:28 +0300
                Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Lele Gaifax <lele@metapensiero.it> - 2013-07-13 10:12 +0200
                Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-07-13 12:48 -0400
                Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-07-13 12:59 -0400
                Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Wayne Werner <wayne@waynewerner.com> - 2013-07-13 13:35 -0500
          Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-13 10:36 +1000
          Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-07-12 19:42 -0400
        Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2013-07-12 11:19 -0600
        Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2013-07-12 18:07 -0400
        Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2013-07-12 23:07 +0100
          Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Νικόλας <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-13 08:32 +0300
            Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-07-13 12:54 -0400
              Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-07-13 13:09 -0400
              Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Νικόλας <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-13 20:43 +0300
                Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-07-13 14:19 -0400
                Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Νικόλας <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-13 21:23 +0300
                Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-07-13 14:30 -0400
                Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-07-13 16:57 -0600
                Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Νικόλας <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-16 22:43 +0300
                Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-07-16 15:51 -0400
                Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-07-16 20:51 -0400
                Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-17 10:58 +1000
                Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2013-07-14 13:32 -0500
                Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-07-13 14:21 -0400
                Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Νικόλας <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-13 21:28 +0300
                Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-14 09:12 +1000
                Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Wayne Werner <wayne@waynewerner.com> - 2013-07-13 13:46 -0500
                Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Benjamin Kaplan <benjamin.kaplan@case.edu> - 2013-07-13 11:17 -0700
                Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Νικόλας <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-15 16:25 +0300
                Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-07-15 20:34 -0400
                Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-07-15 20:48 -0600
                Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2013-07-17 10:07 +1000
            Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-14 03:03 +1000
        Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-07-12 16:15 -0600
      Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-07-12 12:24 -0400
    Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Νικόλας <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-14 08:18 +0300
      Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-14 15:24 +1000
        Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Νικόλας <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-14 10:51 +0300
  Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-13 02:41 +1000

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