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RE: Top-posting &c.

From "Prasad, Ramit" <ramit.prasad@jpmorgan.com>
Subject RE: Top-posting &c.
Date 2012-08-24 13:53 +0000
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Ulrich Eckhardt wrote:
> A good tool would reduce the effort and guide users, like e.g. giving
> them a hint if they leave the whole mail they're replying to as copy.
> Several corporate email solutions (like MS Outlook/Exchange) put very
> little emphasis on communication efficiency but only on eye-candy
> features. Their popularity and the resulting influence on people has
> caused decay in average communication culture, and that is what I blame
> them for.

True, but it is by no means impossible or very difficult. It just requires
some effort. I blame the user more and the software less because of quotes 
like below.

[ Not Ulrich ]
> GMail uses top-posting by default. 


[ Back to Ulrich ]
> BTW: You omitted the attribution line for the text you quoted, whom do
> you blame for that? That said, "Nonsense" is a strong enough word to
> start a flamewar... not nice.
Fair enough. I typically leave off attribution because I would rather
to discuss things with quotes instead of he-said and she-said. The
focus should be on the idea/conversation and less about attributing
"blame" to someone (and it is invariably more often negative attribution
than positive). If attribution is preferred, I suppose I could always 
add it back in. Ironically, this is one of the things I wish Outlook
was better about.

Ramit

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Top-posting &c. (was Re: [ANNC] pybotwar-0.8) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-17 08:36 +1000
  Re: Top-posting &c. (was Re: [ANNC] pybotwar-0.8) Madison May <worldpeaceagentforchange@gmail.com> - 2012-08-16 15:42 -0700
  Re: Top-posting &c. (was Re: [ANNC] pybotwar-0.8) Madison May <worldpeaceagentforchange@gmail.com> - 2012-08-16 15:42 -0700
    Re: Top-posting &c. (was Re: [ANNC] pybotwar-0.8) Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2012-08-17 01:19 -0400
      Re: Top-posting &c. Ulrich Eckhardt <ulrich.eckhardt@dominolaser.com> - 2012-08-17 09:18 +0200
        RE: Top-posting &c. "Prasad, Ramit" <ramit.prasad@jpmorgan.com> - 2012-08-20 22:49 +0000
          Re: Top-posting &c. Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-21 03:43 +0000
          Re: Top-posting &c. Ulrich Eckhardt <ulrich.eckhardt@dominolaser.com> - 2012-08-21 10:15 +0200
            RE: Top-posting &c. "Prasad, Ramit" <ramit.prasad@jpmorgan.com> - 2012-08-24 13:53 +0000
              Re: Top-posting &c. Ramchandra Apte <maniandram01@gmail.com> - 2012-08-24 07:23 -0700
                Re: Top-posting &c. Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-24 15:43 +0100
              Re: Top-posting &c. Ramchandra Apte <maniandram01@gmail.com> - 2012-08-24 07:23 -0700
                Re: Top-posting &c. rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2012-08-24 08:58 -0700
                Re: Top-posting &c. rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2012-08-24 09:39 -0700
                Re: Top-posting &c. Dave Angel <d@davea.name> - 2012-08-24 21:37 -0400
            Re: Top-posting &c. Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-25 03:49 +1000
            Re: Top-posting &c. Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2012-08-24 12:28 -0700
      Re: Top-posting &c. (was Re: [ANNC] pybotwar-0.8) rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2012-08-17 09:36 -0700
        Re: Top-posting &c. (was Re: [ANNC] pybotwar-0.8) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-18 01:43 +0000
          Re: Top-posting &c. (was Re: [ANNC] pybotwar-0.8) Zero Piraeus <schesis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-17 21:54 -0400
          Re: Top-posting &c. (was Re: [ANNC] pybotwar-0.8) Jean-Michel Pichavant <jeanmichel@sequans.com> - 2012-08-20 17:09 +0200
        Re: Top-posting &c. (was Re: [ANNC] pybotwar-0.8) Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2012-08-18 15:34 +0000
          Re: Top-posting &c. (was Re: [ANNC] pybotwar-0.8) rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2012-08-18 10:27 -0700
            Re: Top-posting &c. (was Re: [ANNC] pybotwar-0.8) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-19 07:15 +0000
              Re: Top-posting &c. (was Re: [ANNC] pybotwar-0.8) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-19 17:46 +1000
              Re: Top-posting &c. (was Re: [ANNC] pybotwar-0.8) python@bdurham.com - 2012-08-19 08:43 -0400
              Re: Top-posting &c. (was Re: [ANNC] pybotwar-0.8) rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2012-08-20 00:31 -0700
                Re: Top-posting &c. (was Re: [ANNC] pybotwar-0.8) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-20 17:46 +1000
                Re: Top-posting &c. (was Re: [ANNC] pybotwar-0.8) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-20 09:12 +0100
    Re: Top-posting &c. (was Re: [ANNC] pybotwar-0.8) Jurko Gospodnetić <jurko.gospodnetic@pke.hr> - 2012-08-17 09:52 +0200
    Re: Top-posting &c. (was Re: [ANNC] pybotwar-0.8) Alex Strickland <sscc@mweb.co.za> - 2012-08-21 08:07 +0200
      Re: Top-posting &c. (was Re: [ANNC] pybotwar-0.8) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-21 07:59 +0000
    Re: Top-posting &c. (was Re: [ANNC] pybotwar-0.8) Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2012-08-21 13:14 -0400
      Re: Top-posting &c. (was Re: [ANNC] pybotwar-0.8) Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2012-08-22 07:25 +0100
        Re: Top-posting &c. (was Re: [ANNC] pybotwar-0.8) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-22 08:35 +0100
  Re: Top-posting &c. (was Re: [ANNC] pybotwar-0.8) rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2012-08-17 00:39 -0700
  Re: Top-posting &c. (was Re: [ANNC] pybotwar-0.8) Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2012-08-17 13:03 +0000
    Re: Top-posting &c. Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2012-08-18 15:59 +1000

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