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RE: duck typing assert

From "Prasad, Ramit" <ramit.prasad@jpmorgan.com>
Subject RE: duck typing assert
Date 2012-11-09 17:37 +0000
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Andriy Kornatskyy wrote:
> 
> Thank you for all comments.
> 
> > It makes very good sense to say:
> >
> > duckmatch(IFoo).compare(Foo)
> 
> Since we do duck match of IFoo... but there is no `duck match`, there is `duck test`. I believe instead of
> `compare` is more readable with `equals`. Than it is more from mathematics - precise answer... that you can not
> guarantee at all in dynamic programming language. So it false to use such wording to reflect this check. We can
> only make an assumption that one looks like the other (similar)... with some limitation of cause...
> understanding what is `duck test`.
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_test
> 
> The intent is to make such language `construct` so it reads as English sentence that make sense, and not
> mandatory `pythonic` way (readability counts, java smokes aside).
> 
> is_similar(Foo).to(IFoo) # <= but we lost `duck test` sense here?
> 
> Words `looks` and `like` are coming from duck test and point also direction:
> 
> # 1
> looks(Foo).like(IFoo, notice=['__len__'], ignore_funcs=['foo'], ignore_argspec['bar'])
> 
> English sentence equivalent: if functions in Foo looks like one in IFoo than, probably, IFoo can be replaced
> with Foo; notice to check __len__, it is safe to ignore function `foo` and arguments passed to `bar`.
> 
> # 2
> looks(Foo, notice=['__len__'], ignore_funcs=['foo'], ignore_argspec['bar']).like(IFoo)
> 
> English sentence equivalent: while looking at Foo notice to check `__len__`, it is safe to ignore function `foo`
> and arguments passed to `bar`, than probably it like IFoo.

What about?

duck(Foo).equivalent_to(IFoo, <kwargs>) 
duck(Foo).matches(IFoo, <kwargs>)

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duck typing assert‏ Andriy Kornatskyy <andriy.kornatskyy@live.com> - 2012-11-08 20:34 +0300
  Re: duck typing assert‏ Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-11-08 23:33 +0000
    Re: duck typing assert Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-11-08 18:00 -0700
      Re: duck typing assert Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-11-09 13:36 +0000
        RE: duck typing assert Andriy Kornatskyy <andriy.kornatskyy@live.com> - 2012-11-09 17:01 +0300
        Re: duck typing assert Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-11-10 01:15 +1100
        RE: duck typing assert Andriy Kornatskyy <andriy.kornatskyy@live.com> - 2012-11-09 17:37 +0300
    Re: duck typing assert Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-11-09 17:14 +1100
    RE: duck typing assert Andriy Kornatskyy <andriy.kornatskyy@live.com> - 2012-11-09 13:26 +0300
    RE: duck typing assert "Prasad, Ramit" <ramit.prasad@jpmorgan.com> - 2012-11-09 17:37 +0000
    RE: duck typing assert Andriy Kornatskyy <andriy.kornatskyy@live.com> - 2012-11-09 20:55 +0300

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