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Re: My son wants me to teach him Python

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From Joshua Landau <joshua.landau.ws@gmail.com>
Date 2013-06-13 21:08 +0100
Subject Re: My son wants me to teach him Python
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
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On 13 June 2013 14:01, rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> wrote:
> Some views of mine (controversial!).
>
> Python is at least two things, a language and a culture.
> As a language its exceptionally dogma-neutral.
> You can do OO or FP, throwaway one-off scripts or long-term system
> building etc
>
> However as a culture it seems to prefer the OO style to the FP style.
> This is unfortunate given that OO is on the down and FP is on a rise.
> Some thoughts re OOP: http://blog.languager.org/2012/07/we-dont-need-no-ooooo-orientation-4.html
>
> So my suggestion is use some rigorous FPL like Haskell to learn/teach
> programming.
> After that you can switch to python or some other realistic language.

Hey - Haskell is realistic [1].

> Note: I have some serious reservations regarding Haskell
> http://blog.languager.org/2012/08/functional-programming-philosophical.html
> Nevertheless it seems to be the best there is at the moment.
>
> tl;dr: Haskell is in 2013 what Pascal was in 1970 -- good for
> programming pedagogy.
> --
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

[1] http://xmonad.org/

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My son wants me to teach him Python John Ladasky <john_ladasky@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-06-12 12:46 -0700
  Re: My son wants me to teach him Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-13 06:02 +1000
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    Re: My son wants me to teach him Python John Ladasky <john_ladasky@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-06-12 15:06 -0700
      Re: My son wants me to teach him Python Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2013-06-12 16:22 -0600
  Re: My son wants me to teach him Python Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2013-06-12 14:31 -0700
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        Re: My son wants me to teach him Python Modulok <modulok@gmail.com> - 2013-06-12 23:30 -0600
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  Re: My son wants me to teach him Python rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-06-13 06:01 -0700
    Re: My son wants me to teach him Python Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-06-13 09:07 -0400
      Re: My son wants me to teach him Python rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-06-13 06:37 -0700
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