Re: Survey -- Move To Trash function in Python?

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Date	2015-05-15 01:59 +1000
Subject	Re: Survey -- Move To Trash function in Python?
From	Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.python
Message-ID	<mailman.3.1431619149.17265.python-list@python.org> (permalink)

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On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 1:49 AM, Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 2015-05-14, Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> wrote:
>
>> I'd like to do a little survey, and get a quick show of hands.
>>
>> How many people have written GUI or text-based applications or
>> scripts where a "Move file to trash" function would be useful?
>
> How would you even define what "move to trash" means in a standard
> way?
>
> Even withing the limited context of something like a mail client, it's
> meaning varies depending on mail store format or which IMAP server
> you're talking to.
>
> Or are you assuming the only thing that can be "moved to trash" is a
> file?

AIUI this is specifically about files.

I have never used such a feature, and generally found them to be more
annoying than useful. The times when I want to mark a file for
deletion either now or at some undefined time in the future (at the
file system's discretion) are approximately zero; either I want the
file, or I can delete it immediately. Given that actually-removed
files can usually be undeleted if their disk space hasn't been
reclaimed, I don't think trash cans really help much.

Plus, I think it's a UI insanity when a console program dumps
something in the trash, which to me has always felt like a GUI file
manager tool.

That said, though, I think a standardized API for trashing files is
not a bad thing; and it's not something that will need huge API
changes, so the costs of feature-freeze would be low.

ChrisA

Thread

Survey -- Move To Trash function in Python? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-05-15 01:45 +1000
  Re: Survey -- Move To Trash function in Python? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-05-14 15:49 +0000
    Re: Survey -- Move To Trash function in Python? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-05-15 01:59 +1000
      Re: Survey -- Move To Trash function in Python? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-05-15 12:28 +1000
    Re: Survey -- Move To Trash function in Python? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-05-15 11:37 +1000
      Re: Survey -- Move To Trash function in Python? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-05-15 11:53 +1000
      Re: Survey -- Move To Trash function in Python? Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-05-14 20:49 -0600
      Re: Survey -- Move To Trash function in Python? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-05-15 12:56 +1000
        Re: Survey -- Move To Trash function in Python? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-05-15 14:09 +1000
          Re: Survey -- Move To Trash function in Python? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-05-15 14:25 +1000
          Re: Survey -- Move To Trash function in Python? random832@fastmail.us - 2015-05-15 14:27 -0400
            Re: Survey -- Move To Trash function in Python? sohcahtoa82@gmail.com - 2015-05-15 17:04 -0700
          Re: Survey -- Move To Trash function in Python? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-05-16 04:33 +1000
  Re: Survey -- Move To Trash function in Python? Dave Farrance <DaveFarrance@OMiTTHiSyahooANDTHiS.co.uk> - 2015-05-14 18:32 +0100
    Re: Survey -- Move To Trash function in Python? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-05-14 18:11 +0000
      Re: Survey -- Move To Trash function in Python? Chris Warrick <kwpolska@gmail.com> - 2015-05-14 20:43 +0200
      Re: Survey -- Move To Trash function in Python? Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2015-05-14 12:32 -0700
    Re: Survey -- Move To Trash function in Python? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-05-15 12:03 +1000
      Re: Survey -- Move To Trash function in Python? Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2015-05-14 22:27 -0400
  Re: Survey -- Move To Trash function in Python? Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2015-05-14 11:29 -0700
  Re: Survey -- Move To Trash function in Python? iMath <redstone-cold@163.com> - 2015-05-18 03:31 -0700
    Re: Survey -- Move To Trash function in Python? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-05-18 14:46 +0100

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