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Re: from future import pass_function

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Date 2012-07-26 13:53 +1000
Subject Re: from future import pass_function
From Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Message-ID <mailman.2585.1343274803.4697.python-list@python.org> (permalink)

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On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
> Steven D'Aprano  <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> wrote:
>>I can't believe I actually have to point this out explicitly, but pass is
>>not print. Apart from them both starting with the letter "P", they are
>>nothing alike. There are good reasons for making print a function, and
>>they don't apply to pass because pass doesn't do what print does.
>
> No, they're very much alike.  That's why all your arguments for print
> as function also apply just as well to pass a function.  Your arguments
> had very little to do what what print actually did.

Except that print / print() is executable. Execution proceeds through
your code, comes to a "print", and goes off to handle that, then comes
back to your code. But "pass" doesn't have code attached to it. Why
should it be a function?

One of the reasons for print becoming a function was its strange
collection of modifiers. How do you, with the print statement, send
output to someplace other than stdout? How do you make it not put a
newline? Far more logical to make those into keyword-only arguments to
a function, and far easier to later add more such options. What
parameters do you give to "pass"?

The pass keyword exists because Python can't have an empty pair of
braces, or an empty semicolon, to represent a "null statement". It
needs a keyword. That keyword is syntax, not code.

ChrisA

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from future import pass_function Ulrich Eckhardt <ulrich.eckhardt@dominolaser.com> - 2012-07-25 10:40 +0200
  Re: from future import pass_function Philipp Hagemeister <phihag@phihag.de> - 2012-07-25 12:30 +0200
  Re: from future import pass_function Nicholas Cole <nicholas.cole@gmail.com> - 2012-07-25 11:33 +0100
  Re: from future import pass_function Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> - 2012-07-25 07:02 -0400
  Re: from future import pass_function Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-07-25 11:33 +0000
    Re: from future import pass_function Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> - 2012-07-25 21:42 -0400
      Re: from future import pass_function Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-07-26 02:38 +0000
        Re: from future import pass_function Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> - 2012-07-25 23:30 -0400
          Re: from future import pass_function Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-07-26 13:53 +1000
            Re: from future import pass_function Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> - 2012-07-26 00:03 -0400
              Re: from future import pass_function Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2012-07-25 21:32 -0700
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                Re: from future import pass_function Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2012-07-26 14:23 -0700
                Re: from future import pass_function John Ladasky <john_ladasky@sbcglobal.net> - 2012-07-26 15:20 -0700
                Re: from future import pass_function John Ladasky <john_ladasky@sbcglobal.net> - 2012-07-26 15:20 -0700
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              Re: from future import pass_function Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-07-26 08:43 +0100
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        Re: from future import pass_function Ulrich Eckhardt <ulrich.eckhardt@dominolaser.com> - 2012-07-26 08:59 +0200
          Re: from future import pass_function Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-07-26 09:26 +0000
            Re: from future import pass_function Ulrich Eckhardt <ulrich.eckhardt@dominolaser.com> - 2012-07-26 13:45 +0200
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                Re: from future import pass_function Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2012-07-26 12:55 -0400
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                Re: from future import pass_function Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-07-27 03:33 +1000
                Re: from future import pass_function Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-07-27 00:25 +0100
                Re: from future import pass_function Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-07-27 00:23 +0100
      Re: from future import pass_function alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2012-07-25 21:17 -0700
  Re: from future import pass_function Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-07-26 02:05 +1000
    Re: from future import pass_function Ulrich Eckhardt <ulrich.eckhardt@dominolaser.com> - 2012-07-26 08:39 +0200
      Re: from future import pass_function Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-07-26 08:36 +0000
      Re: from future import pass_function Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-07-26 10:38 -0400
  Re: from future import pass_function Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2012-07-25 09:28 -0700
  Re: from future import pass_function Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> - 2012-07-25 12:48 -0400
  Re: from future import pass_function Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> - 2012-07-25 14:17 -0400
  Re: from future import pass_function Michael Hrivnak <mhrivnak@hrivnak.org> - 2012-07-26 01:20 -0400
    Re: from future import pass_function Ulrich Eckhardt <ulrich.eckhardt@dominolaser.com> - 2012-07-26 08:42 +0200
      Re: from future import pass_function Michael Hrivnak <mhrivnak@hrivnak.org> - 2012-07-26 17:15 -0400
  Re: from future import pass_function Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-07-26 08:50 +0100
    Re: from future import pass_function Ulrich Eckhardt <ulrich.eckhardt@dominolaser.com> - 2012-07-27 08:39 +0200
  Re: from future import pass_function Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> - 2012-07-26 05:16 -0400
  Re: from future import pass_function Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-07-26 19:42 +1000
  Re: from future import pass_function Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> - 2012-07-26 06:00 -0400
  Re: from future import pass_function rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2012-07-26 08:01 -0700
  Re: from future import pass_function Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2012-07-26 14:01 -0400
  Re: from future import pass_function Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-07-27 04:14 +1000
  Re: from future import pass_function John Ladasky <john_ladasky@sbcglobal.net> - 2012-07-26 13:48 -0700
    Re: from future import pass_function Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-07-26 15:18 -0600
    Re: from future import pass_function Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2012-07-26 15:35 -0700
    Re: from future import pass_function Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-07-27 00:21 -0400
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